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Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby Ratatouille » September 15th, 2017, 9:15 am

We have tow lovely neighbours both of whom are single men and very good company. We want to invite them for a meal next week BUT. One is a pescatarian and the other will not touch fruit is anyshape of form.

I'm thinking good old Brit fish and chips might amuse but what would you serve for pudding and starter?
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby Suelle » September 15th, 2017, 9:24 am

I assume you're talking about dainty 'dinner party' portions of fish and chips, rather than chip shop style! :D

How about potted shrimps to start, if you can obtain them, and a dessert with coffee and/or chocolate - is tiramisu too heavy? Perhaps a semi-freddo?
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby MariaKK » September 15th, 2017, 10:05 am

I'd stick to all British

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As it's getting chilly - and promises to get worse - how about soup? A proper creamy tomato soup - unless the fruit hater would also reject that. Suelle's potted shrimps would also be delicious, of course.

Pudding - something they're unlikely to have come across, unless you've already made it for them. A steamed pudding for something more substantial, especially if you're not doing cheese, or something lighter like syllabub, lemon posset ...
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby TeresaFoodie » September 15th, 2017, 10:39 am

Starters - I would also suggest a soup, something veggie and light ahead of the fish main.

Pudding - although not British as such, how about affogato? http://www.jamieoliver.com/news-and-fea ... e-dessert/
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby StokeySue » September 15th, 2017, 12:09 pm

Treacle tart?
Fruit free, British to the core, can be made quite dainty, and I bet the non-fruit eater gets tired of chocolate as his only choice
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby Ratatouille » September 15th, 2017, 12:24 pm

Sue , Mr R and I have just been discussing treacle tart over lunch = great minds!

I can only get my hands on brown shrimps rarely but it is a thought.

I am thinking of serving the fish and chips in newspaper however - afraid it will have to be the Sunday Times though - perhaps a bit too up-market!
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby Prettykiwicrazy » September 15th, 2017, 5:31 pm

What about a fish pie as an alternative as a main? I agree the non fruit eater would probably get fed up of chocolate. Does citrus count as fruit to him? A key lime pie might be refreshing after chips. My favourite starter of all time is a decent prawn cocktail, with optional avocado and bread and butter
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby WWordsworth » September 15th, 2017, 5:55 pm

How about a Bakewell tart?
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby suffolk » September 15th, 2017, 5:56 pm

WWordsworth wrote:How about a Bakewell tart?


... with custard?
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby WWordsworth » September 15th, 2017, 5:58 pm

Of course
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby Suelle » September 15th, 2017, 6:00 pm

WWordsworth wrote:How about a Bakewell tart?


Would the chap who won't eat fruit in any form object to jam? That's what put me off suggesting it.
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby Catherine » September 15th, 2017, 11:48 pm

Prawn cocktail, tomato soup, potted shrimp, or if you can get it a little selection of proper British seaside classics - Winkles, cockles, whelks, jellied eels and an oyster

Spotted dick custard or sticky toffee pudding
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby Seatallan » September 16th, 2017, 7:50 am

Trifle might work for pudding.

Oh sorry- fruit would be a prob I suppose...
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby Pepper Pig » September 16th, 2017, 8:55 am

Creme brulée or Creme caramel? I had a lovely chocolate and pistachio soufflé at our local the other day. (Picture on FB in a minute).

I love prawn cocktail too but I also like most starters . . . :oops:
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby Ratatouille » September 16th, 2017, 9:05 am

Thanks for the suggestions - afraid jam is out as are things like lemon mousse curd etc. It is quite astonishing how many lovely desserts involve fruit isn't it.

These two have eaten here before but never together, so over time they have had potted shrimps, prawn cocktail and trifle. As fish and chips are a bit on the heavy /filling side I would like to keep things a bit lighter on eiher side. I am going back to treacle tart and I have some Cornish clotted cream in the freezer.

I think I should be concentrating on starters - perhaps not more fish. Something cheesey or eggy or soupy ?
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby TeresaFoodie » September 16th, 2017, 9:56 am

How about little cheese souffles?
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby scullion » September 16th, 2017, 10:23 am

as, the main and pudding are going to be quite dense - and veg light, i would go for a salad of some sort or a vegetable sorbet.
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby Pepper Pig » September 16th, 2017, 10:56 am

Does the anti-fruiter eat tomatoes?
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby Ratatouille » September 16th, 2017, 11:59 am

Pepper Pig wrote:Does the anti-fruiter eat tomatoes?


I actually don't know. He may be like my son and not eat them raw but doesn't mind cooked. This man has recently lost his mother who was lovely but way over protective and the reason he never married. He is not gay but his mother managed to see off three lovely ladies with whom he was involved !
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby WWordsworth » September 16th, 2017, 1:33 pm

How about a posset for pud, with biscotti for dunking, or maybe shortbread fingers to keep it British.

Egg mayonnaise for starter? Or that old 1960s-70s classic, a glass of fruit juice :lol:
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby TeresaFoodie » September 16th, 2017, 2:40 pm

Rice pudding with a grilled sugar topping? I was going to call it rice pudding brulee but then that would have been French.

I can't wait to hear what you decided to make for this meal! :bounce:
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby MariaKK » September 16th, 2017, 4:36 pm

Ratatouille wrote:I think I should be concentrating on starters - perhaps not more fish. Something cheesey or eggy or soupy ?


Something eggy :
Rowley Leigh's Parmesan custard with anchovy toast
https://www.thecaterer.com/articles/342 ... ovy-toast#!

or Delia's twice baked souffle

But, they are both last minute things

Soupy:
Tomato soup may be rejected, so not a good idea. What about a consommé? That should be light enough and can be made in advance .

Mmmm!! - Treacle tart. Haven't had one in years.

Or, forget starter and prepare a slightly more substantial apero some of those delicious nibbles you've mentioned in various posts, even if they are not British
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby earthmaiden » September 16th, 2017, 10:59 pm

I think cheesy/eggy dishes can be quite rich. I would go for a light salad made mainly from leaves and herbs and other non-fruity things served perhaps with slices of cheese (goat, mozzarella or that kind of thing) and some bread. For some reason, cheese served like that is different.
That would leave room for fish and chips. I think I would offer two puddings, one treacle tart and one something lighter like chocolate mousse.
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby Ratatouille » October 16th, 2017, 1:09 pm

The supper is to be a week on Friday. Mr R and I are quite absolutely on fish and chips with pea puree and HM tartare sauce followed by treacle tart and clotted cream,

Still pondering the starter but homing in on ramekins of smoked and fresh salmon rilettes which contains whisky and served with Melba toast (little known here).

I've got English sparkling wine for apperos and some English white wine but Mr R thinks perhaps beer as an alternative. I would really appreciate your thoughts.
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby suffolk » October 16th, 2017, 6:06 pm

Oooh ... do you have access to an English style 'bitter' type ale? Superb with F&C :chops:
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby Ratatouille » October 16th, 2017, 6:28 pm

Possibly is the answer. Trouble is I hate beer and we don't really know if the guests would appreciate it. However it could be offered and an alternative available.
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby suffolk » October 16th, 2017, 6:32 pm

I love a glass of Adnams bitter with fish and chips :chops: :luv:
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby Amber » October 16th, 2017, 9:42 pm

How about a small oven-baked mushroom risotto for starters. It sounds heavy but needn’t be.
Or a sharing platter? Olives, Parma ham, hoummous etc?
Gingered crime brûlée for dessert? With rasps for those who do.
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby scullion » October 17th, 2017, 8:06 am

Amber wrote:How about [..] Gingered crime brûlée for dessert? With rasps for those who do.


That sounds more like a punishment than a pudding!
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby Ratatouille » October 17th, 2017, 8:37 am

suffolk wrote:I love a glass of Adnams bitter with fish and chips :chops: :luv:


So does Mr R.

Scully :lol: :lol: :lol:

Mr R says now I have mentioned treacle tart to him there is no possible alternative, especially as I have clotted cream !
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby StokeySue » October 17th, 2017, 9:06 am

I like a good sharp IPA with fish and chips :)

Still pondering starters, I don't know Iv ever had one before fish and chips

Watercress soup? I like Ian's variation of replacing all or part of the potato with courgette, improves both colour and texture
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby Catherine » October 17th, 2017, 3:32 pm

Potted shrimps starter
Pint of prawns
Still think serve a little cockney style shellfish stall affair is fun - cockles, whelks, prawns, winkles, oysters and jellied eels if you can get them......then just let me know what time to arrive. Shellfish platter and 2 single men to choose from, you've sold it to me
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby Seatallan » October 17th, 2017, 5:44 pm

suffolk wrote:I love a glass of Adnams bitter with fish and chips :chops: :luv:


Ooh yes! Or Black Sheep possibly. :chops:
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby Ratatouille » October 19th, 2017, 9:09 am

We discovered London Pride and Hobgoblin in Leclerc yesterdaay. Which would you choose?
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby smitch » October 19th, 2017, 9:34 am

Hobgoblin is pretty heavy, out of the two I'd pick London Pride
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby suffolk » October 19th, 2017, 10:01 am

I agree, to accompany F&C London Pride will be good ... cheers!
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby StokeySue » October 19th, 2017, 11:01 am

Agree, London Pride is dry enough to go with fried food, Hobgloblin isn't really
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby Seatallan » October 19th, 2017, 12:00 pm

Another vote for Pride. :tu:
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby Ratatouille » October 19th, 2017, 12:07 pm

Thanks ladies. I know absolutely nothing about beer.
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby smitch » October 19th, 2017, 12:13 pm

London Pride isn't an amazing beer but it will be fine for your meal :tu: if your guests are not used to English beer, it will probably be more palatable to them than Hobgoblin too. Hope it goes well.
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby Ratatouille » October 22nd, 2017, 2:03 pm

Cracked it last night when I discovered a chunk of blue Stilton in the freezer - given to me as a dinnerparty present from fellow Brit in the summer after DD brought me some too.

So it's broccoli and Stilton soup and I'll make soft Scottish baps to go with it.
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby MariaKK » October 24th, 2017, 6:03 pm

Ratatouille wrote:So it's broccoli and Stilton soup and I'll make soft Scottish baps to go with it.


Sounds delicious, but will they eat the baps or just leave them? I've found that while most French people will want bread with the main course even if there are other carbs, never with soup.

As a fellow beer-hater I do hope Monsieur will provide you with something from his cellar if your guests go for the beer!!
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby Ratatouille » October 25th, 2017, 12:32 pm

These two seem to eat bread with everything. If they don't they'll jus go in the freezer - the baps I mean of course :lol:

We actually have some English wine lined up as a beer alteernative.
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby StokeySue » October 25th, 2017, 12:34 pm

French OH ate bread with soup
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby Ratatouille » October 25th, 2017, 1:47 pm

Actually soup is the only thing I do eat bread with.
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby suffolk » October 25th, 2017, 2:11 pm

I hardly eat bread at all ... I love good bread but it fills me up and upsets my innards nowadays. :(
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby Catherine » October 25th, 2017, 2:22 pm

I love soup, but never order it if I know there are 3 courses as I find it too filling. I'd be happy with just the soup and want to leave it at that
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby suffolk » October 25th, 2017, 3:30 pm

I can cope with a thin-ish broth type soup or a chilled soup to start a three course meal ... but like you Catherine, I would find a thicker soup too much before a main course and pudding .... unless I could go out for a walk or chop some wood between the main and the pud :lol:
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby WWordsworth » October 29th, 2017, 4:43 pm

Another vote for beer with fish and chips.
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Re: Dinner for two batchelor friends

Postby Catherine » November 4th, 2017, 10:42 pm

How did the dinner go?
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