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bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby Herbidacious » September 24th, 2018, 11:14 am

I have a posh white boule type loaf which I want to use up/convert into bread and butter pudding, but all the recipes I can find online give bread quantities in 'slices'. Just 'slices', on the whole, or if one is lucky 'from a small/large/medium sized' loaf, or maybe a thin or a thick slice. But still just slices. Any ideas how to convert? Or does anyone have a recipe that gives you a weight. I imagine the more experienced bread and butter pudding makers just do it by eye, so to speak, as my mother would have done.
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby suffolk » September 24th, 2018, 11:26 am

Herbidacious wrote:imagine the more experienced bread and butter pudding makers just do it by eye, so to speak, as my mother would have done.


That's what I do ........ but in your situation I'd simply cut your loaf into slices and try to visualise how many standard slices of bread would be the equivalent amount ... making a B&B pudding isn't an exact science (thank goodness ;) ) ... more important is to use the right size dish for the liquid and then fill it with enough slices of bread to just about reach the top of the dish :D

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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby Herbidacious » September 24th, 2018, 11:31 am

I know but last time it was substandard, and I rather want to get it right.

Thanks Suffs. Will do as you suggest.
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby Herbidacious » September 24th, 2018, 11:56 am

Right all done. Fingers crossed.
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby StokeySue » September 24th, 2018, 12:24 pm

Hope it soothsayer - eta that is spell checker for goes smoothly :rolleyes:

A slice from a cut loaf is usually about 40 grams, including crusts
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby suffolk » September 24th, 2018, 12:24 pm

Crossed here for you too ... have you sprinkled lots of sugar on the top? Demerara is good :chops:
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby Herbidacious » September 24th, 2018, 2:28 pm

It worked and the tiny morcel I sampled was delish :D (I know not to everyone's taste, but I used up some mixed dried pre-soaked fruit with peel left over from last Christmas. Some cinnamon, and freshly grated nutmeg. Just golden brown granulated sugar, which smelt suprisingly lovely. Whole milk. The jersey cream will go on top!)

Thanks both! I think I now feel more confident that I know what I am doing for furture eventualities.
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby suffolk » September 24th, 2018, 2:36 pm

:chef: :tu: :drool: Haven't made one for a while ... must remedy that :oops:
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby scullion » September 24th, 2018, 3:43 pm

i was fed some recently. even the maker thought it was yuk and slimey and said they wouldn't make it again. phew!
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby Badger's mate » September 24th, 2018, 8:16 pm

SIL makes a variant with raspberries and white chocolate. I had a stab at it without the recipe and it turned out well.
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby suffolk » September 24th, 2018, 8:59 pm

I sometimes make it with brioche and marmalade ... or at C*mas make it with panettone with some little lumps of good marzipan and some brandied cherries ... luscious :chef:
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby StokeySue » September 24th, 2018, 9:13 pm

scullion wrote:i was fed some recently. even the maker thought it was yuk and slimey and said they wouldn't make it again. phew!

They could try making it properly of course - it really shouldn’t be slimy

I like mine fairly simple. It should be quite delicate. I don’t like the cheffy addition of apricot jam for example so fashionable in ythe 70s and 80s. Just good bread or brioche, butter, some fruit, and a subtly flavoured custard. Don’t even think about using croissants- sorry Nigella, terrible idea, texture is all wrong

Haven’t made one for ages though, not much call for it round these parts
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby Badger's mate » September 24th, 2018, 9:46 pm

Don’t even think about using croissants


That's reminded me how it all went. I had one of those chocolate chip brioche tear & share thingies rather past its best before date, and an odd croissant in the freezer, so tore them up, put them in a baking dish, scattered raspberries and lumps of white chocolate around and poured eggs and cream over it. Not really bread and butter pudding at all, but it turned out all right :D
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby Herbidacious » September 25th, 2018, 10:25 am

I'd like to make a chocolate one. Carluccio's used to do a really good one.

Mine isn't slimy :)

I have some homemade raspberry syrup which needs using up - I may try pouring some over tonight's.
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby PatsyMFagan » September 27th, 2018, 10:54 am

Herbidacious wrote:It worked and the tiny morcel I sampled was delish :D (I know not to everyone's taste, but I used up some mixed dried pre-soaked fruit with peel left over from last Christmas. Some cinnamon, and freshly grated nutmeg. Just golden brown granulated sugar, which smelt suprisingly lovely. Whole milk. The jersey cream will go on top!)

Thanks both! I think I now feel more confident that I know what I am doing for furture eventualities.


That sounds delicious ... like others, I just play it by ear/eye/feel etc .... and throw in anything I think will go with the eggy custard .. I have spread the bread with butter and marmalade before now ;) :tu:
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby suffolk » September 27th, 2018, 11:36 am

PatsyMFagan wrote:
Herbidacious wrote:It worked and the tiny morcel I sampled was delish :D (I know not to everyone's taste, but I used up some mixed dried pre-soaked fruit with peel left over from last Christmas. Some cinnamon, and freshly grated nutmeg. Just golden brown granulated sugar, which smelt suprisingly lovely. Whole milk. The jersey cream will go on top!)

Thanks both! I think I now feel more confident that I know what I am doing for furture eventualities.


That sounds delicious ... like others, I just play it by ear/eye/feel etc .... and throw in anything I think will go with the eggy custard .. I have spread the bread with butter and marmalade before now ;) :tu:


Must wipe my glasses (I've been making grape jelly) ... I read that as 'marmite' ............ :shock: :oops:
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby StokeySue » September 27th, 2018, 11:40 am

I do make savoury bread and butter pudding, though without Marmite,

Layer the bread with grated cheese and caramelised onions, pour over the egg an milk mixture

Very similar to UK cheese pudding or US strata I suppose
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby suffolk » September 27th, 2018, 11:41 am

We used to have something like that for school dinners sometimes in the little village school ... most people hated it but I loved it and always had second helpings :chops:
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby earthmaiden » September 27th, 2018, 1:47 pm

Oooh yes. I am not fond of sweet B&B pud but love a savoury one. A seeded bread made into sandwiches well filled with sauteed leeks and grated cheese as the base. Delicious!
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby suffolk » September 27th, 2018, 2:01 pm

The one I remember was more or less like this https://www.deliciousmagazine.co.uk/rec ... e-pudding/
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby StokeySue » September 27th, 2018, 2:10 pm

Yes that's pretty much like my mum's Suffolk
I have made Elisabeth David's Little Cheese Puddings which are similar but individual

I think the B&B pud us slightly easier to make in a large amount, and I like the onions
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby scullion » September 27th, 2018, 2:46 pm

the one i had was made with panettone. the flavour was better than my mother's pudding but unpleasant none the less. i don't see how it could be non slimy.
i think i've had one that was made with cheese - possibly at infant/junior school - it sticks in the memory for all the wrong reasons.
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby earthmaiden » September 27th, 2018, 2:57 pm

Love cheese pudding too! My grandmother used to make that and I did when the children were small. I had forgotten about it :hungry:

I find it fascinating how a baked egg custard, a custard tart, a quiche and sweet and savoury B&B puds can all seem so different when they are basically the same thing. I love custard tarts, quiche and savoury B&B puds but really dislike the others.
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby Herbidacious » September 28th, 2018, 5:43 pm

My husband likes strata but not B&B pudding. I am kind of the other way round, but am willing to try an oniony one again.

Scullion I am not sure ifyour commetn about sliminess was botu B&B pudding in general or not. I can see it might be with panettone as it would absorb liquid more?

A friend does a super luxurious one with double cream and whisky, and some fancy bread (possibly brioche) but I'm inclined to think good old fashioned using up left overs variety is the best. (Although I haven't actually tasted hers. Sounds a bit rich, though. And if it's too rich you can't eat as much...!!! :hungry: )
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby scullion » September 28th, 2018, 6:23 pm

in general.
it has been my least favourite/most disgusting pudding since early childhood - ever since i can remember. i have/will never make it and the one i had the other month was the first i'd eaten in over forty years - for a very good reason!
i realise others like it but then people eat the waste processing organs of animals, eyeballs, rotten shark and puffin etc so i understand that there's no accounting for taste!

bread pudding is a different matter - more than happy with that.
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby Herbidacious » September 28th, 2018, 8:53 pm

Weirdly bread pudding is utterly :sprout: for me.
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby StokeySue » September 28th, 2018, 9:14 pm

I quite like bread pudding
But it is a recurrent failure when I make it
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby suffolk » September 28th, 2018, 9:33 pm

Herbidacious wrote:Weirdly bread pudding is utterly :sprout: for me.


I can eat it ... but I’m not at all keen ... someone else can have my share ...
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby earthmaiden » September 28th, 2018, 9:38 pm

I think that bread pudding may be something that those who enjoyed it as children like more for nostalgic reasons than those who came to it late in life. I was one of the latter and although I have had some very good light versions as well as some very heavy ones I could never get excited about it and would never use all those nice ingredients to disguise stale bread. I knew a chap whose mum used to make him some every week. It was his favourite back as far as he could remember and I appreciated him sharing some with me sometimes but, knowing his taste in food generally, it can only have been the link with his formative years. We never had that much stale bread, at home, if it was a bit past it it was usually toasted or fried or used as breadcrumbs.
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby PatsyMFagan » September 29th, 2018, 8:30 am

When the local baker in the Village supplies a bread pudding to the Pavilions Caff (at Harefield Hospital), it doesn't last long …. the customers love it !
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby Herbidacious » September 30th, 2018, 8:45 am

earthmaiden wrote:I think that bread pudding may be something that those who enjoyed it as children like more for nostalgic reasons than those who came to it late in life.


Hmm. So what you are saying is that no one could really like it unless they have been conditioned to!
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby suffolk » September 30th, 2018, 9:32 am

Herbidacious wrote:
earthmaiden wrote:I think that bread pudding may be something that those who enjoyed it as children like more for nostalgic reasons than those who came to it late in life.


Hmm. So what you are saying is that no one could really like it unless they have been conditioned to!


Think the same could be said for a lot of foodstuffs ... many people tend to like what they're used to :) and some foodstuffs are often said to be 'an acquired taste'
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby scullion » September 30th, 2018, 9:41 am

i didn't have it enough to be 'conditioned' to it. it was a rare treat at my grandmother's who made really good one (my mother's was less than adequate).
i've also bought it at one of the baker's in truro, a few years back.
i haven't made any for years but if the urge came i would buy bread specifically to make it. - but never, ever for bread and butter pudding.
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby liketocook » September 30th, 2018, 10:00 am

Oh I love bread pudding and prefer it to bread and butter varieties. Jamaican bread pudding is just glorious :D .
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby slimpersoninside » September 30th, 2018, 10:46 am

What is Jamaican bread pudding please?

We're pretty keen on the ordinary one.
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby liketocook » September 30th, 2018, 10:53 am

slimpersoninside wrote:What is Jamaican bread pudding please?

We're pretty keen on the ordinary one.

https://jamaicans.com/breadpudding/ this is pretty much the same as my recipe except mine uses mixed spice and 1/2 tsp ground ginger instead of the cinnamon/nutmeg. You can use rum essence or leave the rum out and add a little more milk but it's nicer with the rum. I use golden rum as that's what I have in the cupboard.
It's very good though very rich a small piece is more than enough :)
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby slimpersoninside » September 30th, 2018, 10:57 am

Cheers LTC.

Looks good to me. Just need some leftover bread now!
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby liketocook » September 30th, 2018, 11:13 am

slimpersoninside wrote:Cheers LTC.

Looks good to me. Just need some leftover bread now!

:tu: :)
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby Herbidacious » September 30th, 2018, 11:55 am

I am sure conditioning plays a role in most of the things we like or don't like. But I don't think it's either a necessary or sufficent condition for liking anything in particular... including bread and butter pudding. To say that it is a necessary condition is really just to say that you can't really understand anyone liking it?! (Without a bit of brainwashing.)

We hve rather drifted away for recipes for bread and butter pudding to Hickybank's food items you hate thread topic...
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby scullion » September 30th, 2018, 12:47 pm

Herbidacious wrote:I am sure conditioning plays a role in most of the things we like or don't like.

not sure i agree with that but i can ask my in-house psychologist if you want! i think conditioning is more behavioural modification. taste in all forms is much more of a personal, subjective choice (or chemical sensitivity).
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby StokeySue » September 30th, 2018, 1:14 pm

I used to have a friend who would continually ask why I didn't like something - is it because it is like <something to which it bears no resemblance to my taste buds>

Drove me nuts - no , just didn't want it in my mouth due to flavour or texture that I found unappealing .
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby earthmaiden » September 30th, 2018, 4:57 pm

Just to say it was bread pudding that I thought people might, in general, have to be conditioned to like enough to love it. Not bread and butter pudding which one either likes or doesn't.

Love the way the topics digress on here ;).
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby suffolk » September 30th, 2018, 5:30 pm

... and no getting told off for going off topic ... :D
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby TeresaFoodie » September 30th, 2018, 5:50 pm

I actually read the title of this thread as bread pudding, not bread AND butter!

I've not tried the former, but was brought up on my nan's amazing bread pudding. Sadly another recipe that went with her to her grave! I have failed on making it successfully on numerous occasions, but funnily enough, and coinciding with this thread, my dad passed on his wife's recipe a few days ago, which sounds just how my nan would make it. I can still see my nan standing there at the kitchen sink soaking her bread in the washing up bowl! I find that weird now as I know she had plenty of mixing bowls. I have her largest one in my kitchen!

Anyway, I rather like the Jamaican bread pudding recipe! Worth investing in a rum miniature for the purpose I think! I have just passed the recipe on to my dad and his wife! :grin: :tu:
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby Herbidacious » September 30th, 2018, 6:19 pm

That was not meant ot be a telling off for going off topic on my part. Just a comment. It's a pity threads can't be tagged for future use in case anyone wants to find 'that discussion on why people like things', but can't remember that it was about bread and butter pudding... :)

I suppose the word 'conditioning' is overused in the way that many things are once the non-academic public (including me) gets hold of them. In this case we are talking about association which is a core part of conditioning? It's learned behaviour at any rate. Clearly not all tastes are learened. It has lately been claimed that babies have an innate attraction to sugar, so no conditioning there at all,if true. Some dislikes have been attributed to chemicals in foods which some people experience differently, or not at all. Children have more taste buds than adults and so probably taste things differently and react to them differently. (The child at a friend's childrens' baptisms who eagerly reached for a smoked salmon canape, which, as soon as it went in its mouth, came out again and back onto the plate, springs to mind.)
You can 'teach' yourself to like something you really don't like (I did this with coriander) but I am sure that's not the norm. More likely in most cases that you like something somewhat, or at least don't actively dislike it, but this can be somewhat reinforced by positive associations. I think this is how ice cream works - childhood parties, holidays etc.- but again that may be me just being incredulous that people think could ever think it's amazing stuff, than this being a good theory. Very hard to test, so probably not a good theory.

What I really meant when I said that conditoning 'performs a role' in tastes was likes and dislikes are probably not 'pure' visceral responses by the time we've got to adulthood. I wasn't suggesting gthat all tastes are caused by conditioning it or that conditioning is entirely responsible for them. This is entirely conjecture though.

I wonder if we kind of condition ourselves sometimes. When I was 9, my teacher got us to make biscuits with marshmallows on top. Straight after making and consuming them, I got influenza. For years after that, marshmallows made me gag, and even now I have to remind myself that I don't really hate them.

The psychology of taste is a fascinating subject and one that's been explored a lot lately. cf. articles on the texture and colour of eating implements and how they affect our perception of the taste of what we eat them with. Not sure how good this science is, but it's out there.
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby suffolk » September 30th, 2018, 7:22 pm

You misunderstood my comment ... it was a humourous reference to ‘the old days’ when the Modx on the BBC board would rap our knuckles and remove ‘off topic’ posts :D

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Postby Herbidacious » September 30th, 2018, 8:04 pm

Ah I see.
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby Badger's mate » October 1st, 2018, 7:41 am

I certainly don't understand anyone who doesn't like bread pudding, but why should the reasons be for liking it or not be different for it than for other foodstuffs?

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Perhaps it's a bit like the scones debate, people are brought up in one camp and make assumptions about the other. I've said before, I didn't see bread and butter pudding until we were on holiday when I was about ten years old. I didn't start making it until I was in my twenties and it's only been a regular if infrequent product since I met Mrs B, who is of from a different tradition. We both now enjoy both puds.
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby PatsyMFagan » October 1st, 2018, 8:21 am

I've already spoken on here (on another thread) about the weekend man's attitude to food and a lot of it concurs with Herbi's post. We were brought up in the same village, with parents the same age and probably the same attitude to food. However, although my mum was a very plain cook (spag bol being the most adventurous dish she cooked) my sister and I have both grown up to cook and eat a vast variety of food that our parents would never have dreamed of. The frustrating thing for me though is that Dave seems to have the strangest attitude to food - mainly basing his diet on foods his parents (particularly his Dad) ate. He won't eat soup of any kind; mash just doesn't 'go' with beef stew; won't touch fish pie although he will eat the different fish in their own separate dishes …..the list is endless and I am beginning to turn into a Mrs Grump as I can't contain my frustration. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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Re: bread and butter pudding recipes

Postby Seatallan » October 1st, 2018, 10:39 am

Herbidacious wrote:I wonder if we kind of condition ourselves sometimes. When I was 9, my teacher got us to make biscuits with marshmallows on top. Straight after making and consuming them, I got influenza. For years after that, marshmallows made me gag, and even now I have to remind myself that I don't really hate them.


Oh that happened to me with burgers! I couldn't eat burgers for yonks afterwards (can now, especially lovely home-made ones :chops: ).

PatsyMFagan wrote:I am beginning to turn into a Mrs Grump as I can't contain my frustration. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


Can't say I blame you Patsy. :rolleyes:
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