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weird and unusaul cakes of 1940s-1970

Postby wargarden » September 22nd, 2019, 12:51 pm

i was looking on ebay and found someone selling old recipe AD from various companies.
the cake AD's intrigued especially the one that seem to be weird and strange.

here is list of names a few of them :
pineapple upside down cake
cheery go around cake
tomato soup cake
apple upside down cake
golden date cake
star cake
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Re: weird and unusaul cakes of 1940s-1970

Postby suffolk » September 22nd, 2019, 1:41 pm

There’s nothing weird or unusual about a Pineapple-Upside-Down Cake ... it’s a long-standing teatime favourite and one of those cakes that can be eaten as a pudding (see your other thread) with the addition of custard, single cream or ice cream. Highly recommended ... do make one ... you won’t be disappointed. :chops:
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Re: weird and unusaul cakes of 1940s-1970

Postby Suelle » September 22nd, 2019, 1:43 pm

Assuming you mean 'cherry' not 'cheery', none of them sound unusual to me. Tomato soup is an unusual ingredient, but I had heard of it being used in cakes.
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Re: weird and unusaul cakes of 1940s-1970

Postby earthmaiden » September 22nd, 2019, 2:10 pm

I had not heard of Tomato Soup cake but the rest are quite popular cakes. Pineapple Upside Down cake seemed a novel thing here in the '60s. I was always led to believe it was something that had originated in the USA as it was cooked in a pan on the stovetop and used what we considered luxurious ingredients. A quick 'Google' confirms this so I am surprised an American would find it weird or strange. https://rabbitcreekgourmet.com/blog/his ... down-cake/
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Re: weird and unusaul cakes of 1940s-1970

Postby suffolk » September 22nd, 2019, 2:15 pm

And here’s a more contemporary version that you can bake in the oven
https://www.nigella.com/recipes/pineapp ... -down-cake

Bhutto there’s loads of recipes for this cake online.
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Re: weird and unusaul cakes of 1940s-1970

Postby Herbidacious » September 22nd, 2019, 6:49 pm

I suppose whether something is weird and strange is almost entirely down to whether it becomes accepted. I remember people thinking 'Swiss carrot cake' was utterly weird. There are recipes floating around for making chocolate mousse with avocado and beetroot chocolate cakes which if they don't stand the test of time may seem very gimicky and strange.

Also of course we had some odd sounding things in the UK during the 40s because of rationing. e.g. (from the Eating for Victory book) Condensed milk cake.

And then there was Freindship cake ;)
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Re: weird and unusaul cakes of 1940s-1970

Postby wargarden » September 22nd, 2019, 7:20 pm

condensed or sweeten condensed milk not weird; it is still a great ingredient in places with questionable refrigeration ,in blizzard , sever storm when forget to restock.
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Re: weird and unusaul cakes of 1940s-1970

Postby Herbidacious » September 22nd, 2019, 8:32 pm

No but a cake based on it sounds weird to me.

But that just goes to show, perceived weirdness varies from one person/culture/time to another.
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Re: weird and unusaul cakes of 1940s-1970

Postby scullion » September 23rd, 2019, 8:21 am

They all sound like American cakes to me, the tomato soup one especially.
I, too, was under the impression that upside down cakes came from the states.
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Re: weird and unusaul cakes of 1940s-1970

Postby Suelle » September 23rd, 2019, 9:45 am

The 1940s, and the start of the following decade, would have been a time of rationing in the UK. Sugar was one of the products on ration, so cake recipes would have to be inventive to get round that - I think that's where the idea of adding sweet root vegetables came from.

As sugar is seen as one of the biggest culprits in terms of both general health and obesity, that was probably no bad thing, but there was a huge surge in sugary, factory made products once rationing was lifted - an inevitable backlash.
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Re: weird and unusaul cakes of 1940s-1970

Postby Ratatouille » September 23rd, 2019, 1:04 pm

I served a passion cake - which contains carrots and walnuts and oil rather than butter - to some French friends yesterday. They both thought it was odd but loved it. In fact they didn't realise at first that there were carrots in it.
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Re: weird and unusaul cakes of 1940s-1970

Postby Pepper Pig » September 23rd, 2019, 1:37 pm

I really, really wonder about American terminology. This has just come through on my Twitter feed and is described as a salad.

https://www.tasteofhome.com/recipes/cra ... nog-salad/
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Re: weird and unusaul cakes of 1940s-1970

Postby Suelle » September 23rd, 2019, 1:48 pm

Pepper Pig wrote:I really, really wonder about American terminology. This has just come through on my Twitter feed and is described as a salad.

https://www.tasteofhome.com/recipes/cra ... nog-salad/


There are several others in the general feature ( https://www.tasteofhome.com/collection/ ... ry-decade/ ) which are called moulded (molded) salads but look more like desserts. I wonder where putting savoury (savory) stuff into gelatin, but calling it a salad, started. It's not a million miles away from our savoury (savory) mousses and terrines, but they're never described as salads over here.
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Re: weird and unusaul cakes of 1940s-1970

Postby earthmaiden » September 23rd, 2019, 1:49 pm

Whatever it is, please don't make me eat it! :sprout:. What a dreadful concoction. It's a relative of the nasty veg set in aspic we were discussing the other day. They are eaten as part of a salad.
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Re: weird and unusaul cakes of 1940s-1970

Postby Ratatouille » September 23rd, 2019, 2:02 pm

PP We had lots of jellied salads made by ourAmerican Catholic priest friend when we were in the Bahamas. he was a wildly "creative" cook. One memorable Thanksgiving he made a cherry and bourbon jellied salad which sent us all over the alcohol limit for days!

The nearest I ever got to making something similar was a cucumber chartreuse which was made with a lime jelly but set with quite a lot of cider vinegar and containing a lot of chopped cucumber. It was ok but I could live without it.
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Re: weird and unusaul cakes of 1940s-1970

Postby wargarden » September 23rd, 2019, 2:57 pm

Ratatouille , Suelle sounds like we need an aspic, gelatin desert and jellied salad thread,
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Re: weird and unusaul cakes of 1940s-1970

Postby scullion » September 23rd, 2019, 11:01 pm

I think we probably don't!
As has been said already, they aren't very common in britain - I think that jelly as a pudding has even decreased in popularity. I haven't eaten jelly since I was able to choose not to.
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Re: weird and unusaul cakes of 1940s-1970

Postby Suelle » September 24th, 2019, 6:16 am

scullion wrote:I think we probably don't!


Not on my account, anyway! :D :rolleyes:
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Re: weird and unusaul cakes of 1940s-1970

Postby Ratatouille » September 24th, 2019, 9:12 am

Nor mine but interestingly, while the French hate sweet jelly desserts they are still quite keen on aspics. They are quite aften served as amuse buches. We had a particularly nice one in the summer made with fresh peas, finely diced tomato flesh and herbs including mint. I know Mannu uses a vegetarian jel which avoids problems Scully
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Re: weird and unusaul cakes of 1940s-1970

Postby StokeySue » September 24th, 2019, 10:32 am

I used to make a pineapple upside down cake similar to Emeril Lagasse’s version. His is (obviously) American but the version I used came off a pack of Express Dairies buttermilk, the cake is a buttermilk batter and gives a very good result

https://www.thedailymeal.com/recipes/pineapple-upside-down-cake-93-recipe

Cakes using dates were very popular in my youth, compressed blocks of pitted dates were much cheaper than vine fruits and everyone in my family likes them

If anyone has the Express Dairies Devil’s Food Cake recipe, which also uses buttermilk I’ve lost it, and it is very good
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Re: weird and unusaul cakes of 1940s-1970

Postby Seatallan » September 24th, 2019, 12:02 pm

Ratatouille wrote:I served a passion cake - which contains carrots and walnuts and oil rather than butter - to some French friends yesterday. They both thought it was odd but loved it. In fact they didn't realise at first that there were carrots in it.


I've never been quite sure of the difference between carrot cake and passion cake before now but you've explained it brilliantly Rats! Thank you! :D :tu:
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Re: weird and unusaul cakes of 1940s-1970

Postby suffolk » September 24th, 2019, 1:13 pm

Of course, Dan Lepard’s/Suelle’s Stone fruit yoghurt cake is a sort of Upside-Down Cake

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Re: weird and unusaul cakes of 1940s-1970

Postby StokeySue » September 24th, 2019, 1:23 pm

Yes, that yogurt batter would be a good alternative to the buttermilk version even I think for pineapple cake

The UK upside down cake is often made with a Victoria sponge type of mix, but I have found the other has a texture that’s more to my taste
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Re: weird and unusaul cakes of 1940s-1970

Postby StokeySue » September 24th, 2019, 1:23 pm

Yes, that yogurt batter would be a good alternative to the buttermilk version even I think for pineapple cake

The UK upside down cake is often made with a Victoria sponge type of mix, but I have found the other has a texture that’s more to my taste
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Re: weird and unusaul cakes of 1940s-1970

Postby scullion » September 25th, 2019, 9:11 pm

Ratatouille wrote: I know Mannu uses a vegetarian jel which avoids problems Scully

that's not the 'problem' - i've used vege-gel, agar, arrowroot etc in the past - i'm just not that fond of jelly. i wouldn't be rude and refuse to eat it if someone had gone to the trouble of making a special one for me but it's one of those things that i find boring - like risotto and tinned baked beans.
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