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clear food

Postby wargarden » November 2nd, 2019, 5:44 pm

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Re: clear food

Postby Gruney » November 2nd, 2019, 6:41 pm

Are you recommending these from your own experience, or expecting us to try them, and provide you with feedback?
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Re: clear food

Postby wargarden » November 2nd, 2019, 7:27 pm

i am just posting about them because they looked cool!
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Re: clear food

Postby earthmaiden » November 2nd, 2019, 7:34 pm

If only I had a rotary evaporator machine ... :|
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Re: clear food

Postby Gruney » November 2nd, 2019, 7:45 pm

wargarden wrote:i am just posting about them because they looked cool!


Why not try them and report back.
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Re: clear food

Postby wargarden » November 2nd, 2019, 9:42 pm

water cake i may try but i don't like normal pumpkin pies so clear one is no go by default.
I think pumpkin spice is an abomination.
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Re: clear food

Postby wargarden » November 2nd, 2019, 9:45 pm

i made my first clear unflavored gelatin aspic today.
just geline and water nothing else.
Turned out great. it now sitting counter looking at me!
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Re: clear food

Postby Prettykiwicrazy » November 2nd, 2019, 10:27 pm

Why would you want to make clear jelly with absolutely no flavour ??
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Re: clear food

Postby wargarden » November 2nd, 2019, 10:44 pm

Prettykiwicrazy it called experimenting and learning the basics.
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Re: clear food

Postby Pepper Pig » November 3rd, 2019, 11:21 am

Do you have a lot of time on your hands?
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Re: clear food

Postby earthmaiden » November 3rd, 2019, 11:50 am

I must say that I love the water cake, so clear and pretty. I want one of those moulds, you could use it for ordinary or champagne jelly too!

I wouldn't be surprised if it turned up on BakeOff :lol:.

I love the appearance of the pumpkin pie too but it's not something easy to recreate at home.

I must say I can't really see the point in wasting gelatine just to set in water, I can't think of any dish which would call for that without flavouring or one of the 5 tastes.
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Re: clear food

Postby scullion » November 3rd, 2019, 12:24 pm

they both look rather ethereal.
i imagine the water cake could be used as a palate cleanser between courses.

Pepper Pig wrote:Do you have a lot of time on your hands?

doesn't look like it - he's doing lots of experiments!
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Re: clear food

Postby Seatallan » November 3rd, 2019, 12:28 pm

Goodness, that clear pumpkin pie is like a work of art isn't it? Sort of thing Heston would do actually.
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Re: clear food

Postby wargarden » November 3rd, 2019, 10:49 pm

Pepper Pig i do lots of experimenting with difference ingredients.

the aspic i plan on using at christmas centerpiece will have flowers in it.
I am also planning on putting an aspic as decoration on top of a cake.
the catch is it has to be supported by only edible products. which means
the aspic has to sit on top of cake and be support by hard edible product such as sugar
also the aspic has last for one week at room temperature.
the cake and all decorations have to be edible it will not be eaten.
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Re: clear food

Postby earthmaiden » November 3rd, 2019, 11:14 pm

What kind of cake is it to be kept that long? Have you seen it done? I can't imagine aspic lasting that long successfully even if it were still edible.
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Re: clear food

Postby wargarden » November 4th, 2019, 12:04 am

well the cake need to last a week as for apic it will have 2 time the normal amount gelatin in it.
you misunderstood. my point about edibily. it has to made from edible product but will not be eaten.
to quote the rules:
all decorations and construction material must be edible.
judging is based on decoration only. cake mixes are allowed.
cake size limit 9in/22.86 cm X 13in/33.02cm no height limit
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Re: clear food

Postby earthmaiden » November 4th, 2019, 1:00 am

You're entering a competition? How exciting! It sounds quite a challenge.
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Re: clear food

Postby scullion » November 4th, 2019, 3:19 am

wargarden wrote:all decorations and construction material must be edible.
judging is based on decoration only. cake mixes are allowed.
cake size limit 9in/22.86 cm X 13in/33.02cm no height limit


ahh.
how did you do in the beef stew competition?
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Re: clear food

Postby wargarden » November 4th, 2019, 5:09 am

scullion: first place with my beef stew :in the competition the category was meat stew.
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Re: clear food

Postby scullion » November 4th, 2019, 10:56 am

impressive, well done.
am i right in thinking that was at the maryland state fair?
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Re: clear food

Postby Seatallan » November 4th, 2019, 12:22 pm

Oooh well done you!!

Will look forward to see how you get on with the cake. :D
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Re: clear food

Postby wargarden » November 4th, 2019, 3:09 pm

scullion: correct.
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Re: clear food

Postby wargarden » November 8th, 2019, 8:07 am

the plain aspic lasted 4.5 days before it split and started to mold.
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Re: clear food

Postby scullion » November 8th, 2019, 10:59 am

did you try using citric acid or another food grade preservative in the mix?
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Re: clear food

Postby earthmaiden » November 8th, 2019, 1:00 pm

That was interesting Wargarten. Will you be trying again with Scully's suggestion?
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Re: clear food

Postby wargarden » November 8th, 2019, 3:43 pm

i will be trying several options including the ones scullion suggested.
sugar, honey, vodka are also on the list.
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Re: clear food

Postby earthmaiden » November 8th, 2019, 3:52 pm

I don't think it would remain clear if you used honey.
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Re: clear food

Postby Seatallan » November 8th, 2019, 4:15 pm

Suppose it might if it was a very pale runny honey?
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Re: clear food

Postby scullion » November 8th, 2019, 4:59 pm

i don't think it would have to be clear honey - once it's diluted, the sugar/ honey is in solution - rape honey is really white.
but wouldn't the sugar content have to be quite high to get the preservation effect - once you add water and a good growing medium into the mix it may not be that much of a preservative.
we'll be interested to know how you get the time scale extended.
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Re: clear food

Postby wargarden » November 8th, 2019, 6:23 pm

honey has anti mold, anti bacterial and other qualities . as i said it will not be eating so as long as it is
not poisonous I can use a lot things. splitting is bigger issue then the mold at moment.
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Re: clear food

Postby scullion » November 8th, 2019, 7:08 pm

wargarden wrote:honey has anti mold, anti bacterial and other qualities


true, but only in the concentration produced by bees. once you start adding water it becomes a different matter altogether - just think mead.
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Re: clear food

Postby wargarden » November 9th, 2019, 6:27 am

get things right for contest is why i am testing now and contest is in august
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Re: clear food

Postby scullion » November 9th, 2019, 10:23 am

that is true forward planning!
i assume you are taking august's temperature into consideration, too.
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Re: clear food

Postby wargarden » November 9th, 2019, 4:14 pm

the cake will be displayed in an air conditioned room.
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