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clear food

PostPosted: November 2nd, 2019, 5:44 pm
by wargarden

Re: clear food

PostPosted: November 2nd, 2019, 6:41 pm
by Gruney
Are you recommending these from your own experience, or expecting us to try them, and provide you with feedback?

Re: clear food

PostPosted: November 2nd, 2019, 7:27 pm
by wargarden
i am just posting about them because they looked cool!

Re: clear food

PostPosted: November 2nd, 2019, 7:34 pm
by earthmaiden
If only I had a rotary evaporator machine ... :|

Re: clear food

PostPosted: November 2nd, 2019, 7:45 pm
by Gruney
wargarden wrote:i am just posting about them because they looked cool!


Why not try them and report back.

Re: clear food

PostPosted: November 2nd, 2019, 9:42 pm
by wargarden
water cake i may try but i don't like normal pumpkin pies so clear one is no go by default.
I think pumpkin spice is an abomination.

Re: clear food

PostPosted: November 2nd, 2019, 9:45 pm
by wargarden
i made my first clear unflavored gelatin aspic today.
just geline and water nothing else.
Turned out great. it now sitting counter looking at me!

Re: clear food

PostPosted: November 2nd, 2019, 10:27 pm
by Prettykiwicrazy
Why would you want to make clear jelly with absolutely no flavour ??

Re: clear food

PostPosted: November 2nd, 2019, 10:44 pm
by wargarden
Prettykiwicrazy it called experimenting and learning the basics.

Re: clear food

PostPosted: November 3rd, 2019, 11:21 am
by Pepper Pig
Do you have a lot of time on your hands?

Re: clear food

PostPosted: November 3rd, 2019, 11:50 am
by earthmaiden
I must say that I love the water cake, so clear and pretty. I want one of those moulds, you could use it for ordinary or champagne jelly too!

I wouldn't be surprised if it turned up on BakeOff :lol:.

I love the appearance of the pumpkin pie too but it's not something easy to recreate at home.

I must say I can't really see the point in wasting gelatine just to set in water, I can't think of any dish which would call for that without flavouring or one of the 5 tastes.

Re: clear food

PostPosted: November 3rd, 2019, 12:24 pm
by scullion
they both look rather ethereal.
i imagine the water cake could be used as a palate cleanser between courses.

Pepper Pig wrote:Do you have a lot of time on your hands?

doesn't look like it - he's doing lots of experiments!

Re: clear food

PostPosted: November 3rd, 2019, 12:28 pm
by Seatallan
Goodness, that clear pumpkin pie is like a work of art isn't it? Sort of thing Heston would do actually.

Re: clear food

PostPosted: November 3rd, 2019, 10:49 pm
by wargarden
Pepper Pig i do lots of experimenting with difference ingredients.

the aspic i plan on using at christmas centerpiece will have flowers in it.
I am also planning on putting an aspic as decoration on top of a cake.
the catch is it has to be supported by only edible products. which means
the aspic has to sit on top of cake and be support by hard edible product such as sugar
also the aspic has last for one week at room temperature.
the cake and all decorations have to be edible it will not be eaten.

Re: clear food

PostPosted: November 3rd, 2019, 11:14 pm
by earthmaiden
What kind of cake is it to be kept that long? Have you seen it done? I can't imagine aspic lasting that long successfully even if it were still edible.

Re: clear food

PostPosted: November 4th, 2019, 12:04 am
by wargarden
well the cake need to last a week as for apic it will have 2 time the normal amount gelatin in it.
you misunderstood. my point about edibily. it has to made from edible product but will not be eaten.
to quote the rules:
all decorations and construction material must be edible.
judging is based on decoration only. cake mixes are allowed.
cake size limit 9in/22.86 cm X 13in/33.02cm no height limit

Re: clear food

PostPosted: November 4th, 2019, 1:00 am
by earthmaiden
You're entering a competition? How exciting! It sounds quite a challenge.

Re: clear food

PostPosted: November 4th, 2019, 3:19 am
by scullion
wargarden wrote:all decorations and construction material must be edible.
judging is based on decoration only. cake mixes are allowed.
cake size limit 9in/22.86 cm X 13in/33.02cm no height limit


ahh.
how did you do in the beef stew competition?

Re: clear food

PostPosted: November 4th, 2019, 5:09 am
by wargarden
scullion: first place with my beef stew :in the competition the category was meat stew.

Re: clear food

PostPosted: November 4th, 2019, 10:56 am
by scullion
impressive, well done.
am i right in thinking that was at the maryland state fair?

Re: clear food

PostPosted: November 4th, 2019, 12:22 pm
by Seatallan
Oooh well done you!!

Will look forward to see how you get on with the cake. :D

Re: clear food

PostPosted: November 4th, 2019, 3:09 pm
by wargarden
scullion: correct.

Re: clear food

PostPosted: November 8th, 2019, 8:07 am
by wargarden
the plain aspic lasted 4.5 days before it split and started to mold.

Re: clear food

PostPosted: November 8th, 2019, 10:59 am
by scullion
did you try using citric acid or another food grade preservative in the mix?

Re: clear food

PostPosted: November 8th, 2019, 1:00 pm
by earthmaiden
That was interesting Wargarten. Will you be trying again with Scully's suggestion?

Re: clear food

PostPosted: November 8th, 2019, 3:43 pm
by wargarden
i will be trying several options including the ones scullion suggested.
sugar, honey, vodka are also on the list.

Re: clear food

PostPosted: November 8th, 2019, 3:52 pm
by earthmaiden
I don't think it would remain clear if you used honey.

Re: clear food

PostPosted: November 8th, 2019, 4:15 pm
by Seatallan
Suppose it might if it was a very pale runny honey?

Re: clear food

PostPosted: November 8th, 2019, 4:59 pm
by scullion
i don't think it would have to be clear honey - once it's diluted, the sugar/ honey is in solution - rape honey is really white.
but wouldn't the sugar content have to be quite high to get the preservation effect - once you add water and a good growing medium into the mix it may not be that much of a preservative.
we'll be interested to know how you get the time scale extended.

Re: clear food

PostPosted: November 8th, 2019, 6:23 pm
by wargarden
honey has anti mold, anti bacterial and other qualities . as i said it will not be eating so as long as it is
not poisonous I can use a lot things. splitting is bigger issue then the mold at moment.

Re: clear food

PostPosted: November 8th, 2019, 7:08 pm
by scullion
wargarden wrote:honey has anti mold, anti bacterial and other qualities


true, but only in the concentration produced by bees. once you start adding water it becomes a different matter altogether - just think mead.

Re: clear food

PostPosted: November 9th, 2019, 6:27 am
by wargarden
get things right for contest is why i am testing now and contest is in august

Re: clear food

PostPosted: November 9th, 2019, 10:23 am
by scullion
that is true forward planning!
i assume you are taking august's temperature into consideration, too.

Re: clear food

PostPosted: November 9th, 2019, 4:14 pm
by wargarden
the cake will be displayed in an air conditioned room.