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Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby wargarden » December 29th, 2019, 4:24 pm

here is list of as few contenders for the next antiquated baking
recipes which do you think I should try next :
meat stew bubble dumpling
fruit cocktail cake
raisin pie
Maryland potato pie
southern biscuits made with lily white flour
leek pudding
Lord Woolton Pie
spin cake
rolled spiral cake
lord Baltimore cake
lady baltimore cake
pudding pit cake
sour milk pie
Maryland beaten biscuits
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Re: Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby Pepper Pig » December 29th, 2019, 4:28 pm

Woolton pie is hardly antiquated. The vegans have appropriated a version of it.
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Re: Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby wargarden » December 29th, 2019, 4:41 pm

the version of the recipes i am using all predate 1960.
by most standards antiquated.
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Re: Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby Pepper Pig » December 29th, 2019, 4:48 pm

So why are you promoting them? This isn't the History Channel. I'm sure there are other forums which will appreciate the recipes more.

I predate 1960. Am not the least bit antiquated. Although that's only my opinion.
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Re: Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby earthmaiden » December 29th, 2019, 5:05 pm

Pepper Pig wrote:I predate 1960. Am not the least bit antiquated. Although that's only my opinion.


Was just thinking the same! :?

I am interested in the leek pudding. I have just made a cheese pudding and sometimes make a leek pudding which is like a savoury bread and butter pudding. Both recipes are antique in that they pre-date 1960. I thought antique usually meant 100 + years. I don't consider anything my family served regularly when I was a child as antiquated.
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Re: Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby wargarden » December 29th, 2019, 5:11 pm

because when come to food weird and variety the new in thing.
modern takes on UK classic foods are all rage in high class and causal cuisine.
Here the in thing is variety in baked goods; new and old varieties whether the baked goods are
bread,cakes, pies or quick breads.
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Re: Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby Gruney » December 29th, 2019, 5:16 pm

I haven't got the faintest idea of what you're expecting from this thread, old lad.
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Re: Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby Pepper Pig » December 29th, 2019, 5:17 pm

Stop right there mate.

If there is a trend then it is definitely not looking backwards. Veganism is probably the Big Thing in the UK at the moment. Pies, cakes and bread may feature but not in "antiquated" recipes.
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Re: Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby wargarden » December 29th, 2019, 6:04 pm

Gruney the goal was to have you all vote on which of listed baked goods
I should try next.
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Re: Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby Pepper Pig » December 29th, 2019, 6:07 pm

Next is a chain of department clothing stores here wargarden.
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Re: Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby Gruney » December 29th, 2019, 6:40 pm

wargarden wrote:Gruney the goal was to have you all vote on which of listed baked goods
I should try next.


Why not just do the one you fancy the best - and let us know how you get on?
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Re: Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby Pepper Pig » December 29th, 2019, 7:27 pm

Re leek pudding. Back in the Ready Steady Cook Days a leek crumble was devised which I replicated for my kids as an aside to sausages or somesuch. My friend and long term cleaner who was always welcome to raid the cupboards and fridge during her tea break the next day anointed said crumble with custard . . . . .
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Re: Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby earthmaiden » December 29th, 2019, 7:38 pm

:lol:
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Re: Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby wargarden » December 29th, 2019, 8:23 pm

Gruney there is no fun in that.
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Re: Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby Pepper Pig » December 29th, 2019, 8:43 pm

With all due respect wargarden I have not found any of your posts to be “fun”. But then I am a miserable old antiquity.
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Re: Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby Suelle » December 29th, 2019, 9:13 pm

wargarden wrote:Gruney the goal was to have you all vote on which of listed baked goods
I should try next.


If you want 'audience participation' you need to be more specific when you post, and actually state what you want. :D
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Re: Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby Gruney » December 29th, 2019, 11:16 pm

wargarden wrote:Gruney there is no fun in that.


I'm not biting - this time.
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Re: Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby wargarden » December 30th, 2019, 12:00 am

I'm not biting - this time.

I hope not Gruney since I have no way of knowing
if you have had your shots or where your mouth has been.
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Re: Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby scullion » December 30th, 2019, 1:57 am

i think you should try the sour milk pie. it sounds rather interesting although, as it seems to be an amish delicacy, hardly an antiquated recipe.
i've never had woolton pie although i have had (and made) crecy pie.


i'm not sure baiting shows anyone in a good light.
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Re: Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby Badger's mate » December 30th, 2019, 8:27 am

Wasn't there a leek pudding on MasterChef several years ago? Some chap from the NE did one, iirc.
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Re: Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby Herbidacious » December 30th, 2019, 8:48 am

The reference to 'lily white flour' is potentially interesting (in culinary history terms) in the southern biscuits one. Does this suggest that white flour was not the standard at that point? Or is 'lily white flour' something special? It has slightly uncomfortable conotations as a term...
What date is that one, Wargarden?
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Re: Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby suffolk » December 30th, 2019, 9:29 am

I'm wondering if Lilywhite Flour is /was a brand ?
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Re: Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby Seatallan » December 30th, 2019, 9:47 am

I like the sound of the meat stew bubble dumpling. What's a bubble dumpling when it is at home? :D
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Re: Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby Pepper Pig » December 30th, 2019, 10:21 am

I hope it’s not made with tapioca like bubble tea.
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Re: Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby earthmaiden » December 30th, 2019, 10:29 am

I was interested in the meat stew bubble dumpling too. Is it the stew bubbling on the stove or a bubbly dumpling I wonder? I also wondered about the lily white flour. I do want to know about the leek pudding though. Sour milk pie sounds like a buttermilk/raising agent sort of thing. My dear friend brought up on a farm in the USA loved to drink buttermilk.
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Re: Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby wargarden » December 30th, 2019, 3:29 pm

lily white: flour is brand of flour
until recently was not available in my area unless bought and
sent by a friend or by mail order or a 400 mile road trip. the
delivery cost as you can guess was expensive unless you got it
with free delivery. It made from soft winter wheat which make
considered the ultimate flour for making southern biscuits the
taste, texture and tenderness. If made with hard winter wheat
which is what the all purpose flour is made from as sold my area
the difference quite evident.

suffolk and Herbidacious if you used google you would discovered that
lily white is brand of flour; like Swans Down, king arthur flour are also
a brands of flour here though those brands have been available
here a long time and some different subtypes. such as cake ,bleached,
unbleached bread flour.

As for good southern biscuits serving someone a hard biscuit has
in some cases started multi-generational feuds. people in the southern
USA take southern biscuits very seriously. this seriousness crosses
even ethnic lines.
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Re: Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby wargarden » December 30th, 2019, 3:48 pm

As for meat stew bubble dumpling it is a form of hollow dumpling
as for it's origin and taste I know very little about it. except
the recipe.
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Re: Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby earthmaiden » December 30th, 2019, 3:55 pm

We look forward to you trying it!
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Re: Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby suffolk » December 30th, 2019, 4:39 pm

Wargarden ... there’s no need to be rude .... despite you not having used any capital letters to signify a Proper Noun I did surmise that Lilywhite was a brand name and had said so .... however I do have other things to do with my time so didn’t feel a need to confirm it by Googling. Had I wished to do so I would have. Please don’t attempt to patronise me ... you’re wasting your time.
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Re: Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby northleedsbhoy » December 30th, 2019, 7:38 pm

He is being rather rude on this thread suffs, both to you and Gruney :x

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Re: Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby scullion » December 30th, 2019, 11:24 pm

i work with some people who are unaware that they can come across as rude to others.
if you read what he wrote as just a statement of fact it doesn't really come across as rude.
ok, the humour doesn't hit the spot - but then he does live in america.
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Re: Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby Gruney » December 31st, 2019, 5:32 am

scullion wrote:if you read what he wrote as just a statement of fact it doesn't really come across as rude.


His comments directed at me came across as rude, but I chose to rise above them. I am unlikely to be so charitable next time.
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Re: Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby PatsyMFagan » December 31st, 2019, 10:39 am

Pepper Pig wrote:I hope it’s not made with tapioca like bubble tea.


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Re: Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby wargarden » December 31st, 2019, 11:27 pm

bubble tea. not likely since recipe for bubble dumpling at least 60 years old.
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Re: Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby Pepper Pig » January 1st, 2020, 3:22 pm

Tapioca is older than that wargarden.
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Re: Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby wargarden » January 1st, 2020, 6:19 pm

bubble tea was invented in 1980's
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bubble_tea

the bubble dumpling is been around since before WW2. All the recipes
that related to baked good I listed are that old.
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Re: Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby suffolk » January 1st, 2020, 6:21 pm

I think Pepper Pig was referring to the tapioca and using the Bubble tea as an example ... tapioca has been around a very long time indeed ;)
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Re: Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby wargarden » January 1st, 2020, 9:05 pm

suffolk wrote:I think Pepper Pig was referring to the
tapioca and using the Bubble tea as an example ...
tapioca has been around a very long time indeed ;)

I understood what she meant the two were never related
except they both had bubble in the name.
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Re: Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby suffolk » January 1st, 2020, 9:27 pm

wargarden wrote:.... they both had bubble in the name.


That was why she made a sort of jokey reference to the semolina ... however the humour was obviously lost somewhere in the mid Atlantic ... I suggest we move on ...
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Re: Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby hickybank » January 2nd, 2020, 12:28 pm

If you want antiquated I have a recipe book (very old) that has a recipe calling for 18 Larks (boned)
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Re: Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby scullion » January 2nd, 2020, 2:35 pm

there's the forme of cury, too, if you want ancient!
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Re: Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby Seatallan » January 3rd, 2020, 10:44 am

Oh I love that! It's fascinating isn't it? Clarissa Dickinson-Wright quotes a few recipes from it in her 'History of Food'.
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Re: Next antiquated baking recipes !

Postby suffolk » January 3rd, 2020, 11:08 am

Wargarden ... have you come across this book? https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/742 ... of-cooking

Darina Allen is highly respected in the field of traditional cookery https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darina_Allen and in this book re-acquaints newer generations with the traditional skills that some of us were fortunate to learn from our grandparents.
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