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scotch eggs original or modern

PostPosted: February 11th, 2020, 4:56 pm
by wargarden
do they still make scotch eggs in UK with fish paste or
Is the sausage covered ones only ones available now?

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PostPosted: February 11th, 2020, 5:04 pm
by suffolk
Quail eggs coated with a smoked fish mix in the manner of Scotch eggs are a popular hors d’oeuvres or dainty picnic item. Not so common made with hens eggs, but not unheard of.

Re: scotch eggs original or modern

PostPosted: February 11th, 2020, 5:27 pm
by earthmaiden
I believe that in recent years, small producers have come up with all kinds of fancy flavours to sell in select outlets. Haggis, cheese and all sorts. This is just one of many examples - they do a salmon one: https://www.handmadescotcheggs.co.uk/ha ... cotch-eggs

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PostPosted: February 11th, 2020, 5:38 pm
by Seatallan
Love any variation on a Scotch egg. One of my faves. :hungry:

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PostPosted: February 11th, 2020, 6:07 pm
by StokeySue
I love handmade scotch egg company eggs, they are very good

Legend has it they were invented by Fortnum & Mason, but I'm not sure, I suspect they were based on things that were around, though I think they probably popularised them
https://www.fortnumandmason.com/fortnums/only-fortnums-scotch-egg

There are for example the Indian nargisi kofta - I'm only familiar with the vegetarian version, but apparently there are lamb and chicken ones, as I discovered when I googled to check the spelling. They are eggs encased in something tasty and served hot in a curry gravy whatever variety they are. And I bet they predate the F&M ones!

Re: scotch eggs original or modern

PostPosted: February 12th, 2020, 6:11 am
by wargarden
i have seen several recipes from the 1890's
if any one want me to post them i will be glad to.

Re: scotch eggs original or modern

PostPosted: February 12th, 2020, 10:40 am
by Seatallan
wargarden wrote: have seen several recipes from the 1890's
if any one want me to post them i will be glad to.


I'd be most interested wargarden! :tu:

Re: scotch eggs original or modern

PostPosted: February 12th, 2020, 4:57 pm
by wargarden
here are 4 recipes i hope none are repeats from different sources

Vermont Journal Windsor, Vermont Saturday, March 15, 1879 - Page 4
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/44100214/

Burlington Visitor Burlington, Vermont Sunday, April 01, 1883 - Page 3
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/44103365/

The Nottinghamshire Guardian Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Friday, June 03, 1887 - Page 10
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/44103723/

The Brooklyn Citizen Brooklyn, New York Thursday, September 01, 1892 - Page 5
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/44103924/

Re: scotch eggs original or modern

PostPosted: February 12th, 2020, 10:56 pm
by Amber
Tom Kerridge was making them on his show tonight, with I think, spiced grated onion and courgette.

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PostPosted: February 13th, 2020, 12:35 pm
by scullion
yes, i saw that, they look interesting. they had tinned chickpeas in, too. i may have to have a go sometime - although i would have to deep fry them - shame‽‽

the three american recipe links are for virtually the same product (although the last doesn't have any of the flavourings in) and the one from nottinghamshire is more like the usual sausage meat variety.

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PostPosted: February 13th, 2020, 1:17 pm
by MagicMarmite
I once made smoked mackerel scotch duck eggs, they were great, I no longer have a deep fryer though and I'm now intolerant to egg.

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PostPosted: February 13th, 2020, 1:19 pm
by scullion
reading some of the rest of the page in the notts paper is rather interesting, especially the beekeeping bit - i've not heard of glass supers before - and the fact that what the cappings, of the cells of full comb, was made of was not known was intriguing.
the ladies column was enlightening, too.

Re: scotch eggs original or modern

PostPosted: February 13th, 2020, 2:37 pm
by Seatallan
wargarden wrote:here are 4 recipes i hope none are repeats from different sources

Vermont Journal Windsor, Vermont Saturday, March 15, 1879 - Page 4
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/44100214/

Burlington Visitor Burlington, Vermont Sunday, April 01, 1883 - Page 3
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/44103365/

The Nottinghamshire Guardian Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Friday, June 03, 1887 - Page 10
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/44103723/

The Brooklyn Citizen Brooklyn, New York Thursday, September 01, 1892 - Page 5
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/44103924/


Thanks Wargarden- I shall look forward to having a peruse of these. :D :tu:

Re: scotch eggs original or modern

PostPosted: February 13th, 2020, 6:06 pm
by wargarden
there are whole lot more i can add but hope these will do you now.

Re: scotch eggs original or modern

PostPosted: February 13th, 2020, 8:37 pm
by Catherine
MagicMarmite wrote:I once made smoked mackerel scotch duck eggs, they were great, I no longer have a deep fryer though and I'm now intolerant to egg.


They sound lovely

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PostPosted: February 13th, 2020, 10:03 pm
by northleedsbhoy
Only traditional for me. It’s a Scotch Egg therefore it’s an egg wrapped in sausage meat and breadcrumbs, any other variations should be called something different.

Cheers
NLB :tu:

Re: scotch eggs original or modern

PostPosted: February 14th, 2020, 3:08 pm
by wargarden
the traditional is fish paste northleedsbhoy

Re: scotch eggs original or modern

PostPosted: February 14th, 2020, 3:48 pm
by Pepper Pig
Not in the UK wargarden. The following from The Oxford Companion to Food by the esteemed Alan Davidson:

A hard boiled egg enveloped in sausage meat and then fried. It is a popular cold snack often eaten in pubs or on picnics. It’s origin is unclear although it could possibly be a descendant of a a form of Indian KOFTA as suggested by Annette Hope (1987). Ayto (1993) states that the first printed recipe was in Mrs Rundell (1809 edition) and suggests that the Scottish origin of the item was pointed up by its appearance in Meg Dods (1826) where it is described as being eaten with gravy, a practice also recorded by Mrs Beeton. (1861)

Re: scotch eggs original or modern

PostPosted: February 14th, 2020, 6:19 pm
by scullion
according to the grauniad, on the web, there are claims from yorkshire that it was invented in whitby by a man called william scott and called 'scotties' - and covered in fish paste.
maybe scott appropriated the form rather than invented it
i'm not sure its true origin will ever be known but i would imagine very few people would call it a scotch egg if it was covered in fish - and maybe there's a good reason that it's not very commonly done that way!

Re: scotch eggs original or modern

PostPosted: February 14th, 2020, 6:43 pm
by northleedsbhoy
wargarden wrote:the traditional is fish paste northleedsbhoy


Last time I looked at a dictionary there was a difference between an egg and fish although some folks call roe ‘fish eggs’.

Cheers
NLB :tu: