Type 2 diabetes

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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Postby StokeySue » June 5th, 2018, 10:12 am

I'm not sure what the question is
Put simply
Normally you would assume that 100 gm of starch can be digested to make 100 gm of sugar (roughly) and this sugar causes your blood sugar to rise sharply
But resistant starch resists digestion by your gut enzymes, and doesn't generate so much sugar, so it is effectively a kind of fibre, Better still it's one your gut bacteria like, so it keeps them healthy. They do break it down, and you do absorb most of the calories eventually, but without the sharp rise in blood sugar that is not good for you, I'm not sure that I'd bother chilling my brown rice, but here's some reliable information on resistant starch


https://www.nutrition.org.uk/nutritionscience/nutrients-food-and-ingredients/resistant-starch.html
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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Postby Zosherooney » June 6th, 2018, 7:32 pm

The Truth about Carbs is on at the moment and talking about resistant starch..... very interesting.
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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Postby StokeySue » June 12th, 2018, 9:47 pm

I follow a lot of dieticians and other nutrition specialists on Twitter

They have very much not liked The Truth About Carbs. So I though I'd watch it for myself.

About 20 minutes in, and don't think I'm going to make it to 60, dreadful. A silly mix of school level chemistry and sweeping conclusions, with no obvious link, and certainly no rigourous scientific evidence on display

And the dumbing down, beige carbs for heaven's sake - even the Mail can distinguish between starch and sugar, but apparently Xand can't, or thinks he has to spoon feed us, with a spoonful of sugar to help his medicine go down - oh, no, wait! :rolleyes:
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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Postby Rainbow » June 12th, 2018, 10:51 pm

I haven't seen the program - it may come over to Oz later on - but read this summary/review on Diabetes UK website:

https://www.diabetes.co.uk/in-depth/the ... -1-review/

On resistant starch I noted they say:

"Whilst there is good evidence to suggest more resistant starch is good for us, it’s worth noting that its proportion even in foods like wholegrain bread is very small, and that the main bulk of the starch is still rapidly digested into glucose. For people with diabetes especially, even wholegrain and freeze-thawed foods will spike blood sugars, and this is something that is not fully appreciated in the documentary."
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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Postby TeresaFoodie » June 12th, 2018, 11:34 pm

I always watch this thread with interest, mainly to see how things are going for Zosh, but also because both my parents have type two, so I feel I should really have some understanding. But all of this confusing and over analysing on TV in my opinion is not helping anyone to understand the basics of type two. I am none the wiser. Call carbs white, beige or green, I am still unsure what foods I should be eating or avoiding to prevent this late onset disease happening to me. Smug so called experts such as the one mentioned here aren't helping anyone as far as I can see.
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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Postby Rainbow » June 13th, 2018, 7:36 am

TeresaFoodie wrote: Call carbs white, beige or green, I am still unsure what foods I should be eating or avoiding to prevent this late onset disease happening to me. Smug so called experts such as the one mentioned here aren't helping anyone as far as I can see.

The Diabetes UK has a very informative website - have you had a look?

https://www.diabetes.co.uk/food-and-recipes.html

This link has lots on Food, Diet and over 3,500 recipes!!
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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Postby StokeySue » June 13th, 2018, 8:10 am

It was the way he and his tame dietician equated all their carbs to sugar lumps seems to have particularly annoyed the experts, Yes your body can release 250 g ( :oops: oops, not g but calories - however many sugar cubes) sugars from a jacket spud, but first it's not sucrose as in a sugar lump and it's slow release which he glossed over - but slow release carbs affect your body differently from sugar.
And some of it seems very arbitrary - why didthey serve their veg curry with bulghar rather than brown rice? They seemed to demonise rice.

The main thing is to eat a variety of foods, minimise sugar and perhaps go for the higher fibre option

I think it's fair to say that the low carb diet he advocates is not the same as the extreme celebrity low carb diets and personally I'd have liked to see more of the happy chef :)
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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Postby TeresaFoodie » June 13th, 2018, 9:28 am

Thanks Rainbow. I will have a look at your link later on today. :tu:
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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Postby Suelle » June 13th, 2018, 9:51 am

There are 2 programmes on ITV - tonight and tomorrow, at 9pm - looking at the effects of 800calorie a day diets on diabetes.
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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Postby Zosherooney » June 17th, 2018, 6:29 am

I saw them both Sue, I thought them quite good, two celebs got a bit of a wake up call. I have my 3 month check up coming this Friday so I am hopeful that my situation has improved with the efforts I have been making. Yesterday was 11 weeks on the waggon !
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