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Type 2 diabetes

Postby Zosherooney » April 14th, 2018, 5:43 am

If anyone has any helpful tips, recipes or information - please share. I obviously understand that you need to follow your Drs. advice but it's good to network !

I found this and thought it looked different. Also for the fussy kids that struggle with veg, a way of getting it into them !
https://thebloodsugardiet.com/recipes/b ... ich-bread/
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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Postby StokeySue » April 14th, 2018, 7:01 am

That could be a useful source of recipes, though personally I don't fancy that one. The only thing is most of them seem to be reader's recipes and not clear at a quick glance if they have been checked out for either cooking technique or compliance with the diet?

The best source of info other than your doctor is probably diabetes.org
https://www.diabetes.org.uk/home

I assume that this is the outcome of the tests? :hug: Good luck getting into the swing of what you need to do
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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Postby hickybank » April 14th, 2018, 10:28 am

My Granddaughter has type 2 diabetes But now has a new treatment whereby one injection takes the place of 12 normal one, I think it costs around £80 a month through the NHS, My son is visiting today I will find out more then also the sites they found useful
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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Postby Suelle » April 14th, 2018, 10:36 am

I'm a great fan of Michael Mosly since losing over 1/3 of my body weight, and keeping it off, on his 5:2 plan. That was mostly cutting out carbohydrates and improved my blood sugar and cholesterol levels too, as a bonus.

I believe quite a few medical opinions are coming round the way of thinking that drastically cutting carbohydrates can 'cure' type 2 diabetes, although I'm not sure Mosley goes that far - he talks about reducing blood sugar for borderline diabetics and people with a lot of internal fat. If you want to go down that route, Zosh, I hope your GP is that forward thinking!
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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Postby hickybank » April 14th, 2018, 10:40 am

Sorry Zosh just checked, my Granddaughter has type1 not 2, but she says the best site for info is www.diabetes.co.uk
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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Postby PatsyMFagan » April 14th, 2018, 7:12 pm

I recall that our very own Spotted Dick was able to reverse his diabetes by doing the 5:2 plan .... I wish I had that will power ... :tu:
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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Postby northleedsbhoy » April 14th, 2018, 10:22 pm

PatsyMFagan wrote:I recall that our very own Spotted Dick was able to reverse his diabetes by doing the 5:2 plan .... I wish I had that will power ... :tu:


For the last two blood tests my blood sugar level has been below the pre-diabetic level and my metformin was reduced to one a day. If it's the same in June then I can stop taking them. I don't know how considering that I haven't changed my diet or anything but hopefully it'll be okay.

The best advice that the nurse gave me was do not buy any diabetic jams, chocolate etc as they are a waste of money and it was much better to eat normal stuff but in far lesser quantities, such as a very thin layer of marmalade just to give toast the flavour. Also, to have a treat every so often. It was initially hard to have such a change in lifestyle but I got used to it.

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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Postby Zosherooney » April 15th, 2018, 5:48 am

Thanks for all the tips folks. I make my own jams and marmalades and only use a smattering on bread and toast as I make them with a strong flavour and I tend to not use as much sugar as the recipe says as I have more of a savoury tooth.

Has anyone had any experience with this product ???? https://www.healthessentialsdirect.co.u ... D5EALw_wcB
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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Postby northleedsbhoy » April 15th, 2018, 6:04 am

Nope, but it looks disgusting :scared:. The diabetic nurse who I saw at the hospital when I was first diagnosed also advised me to steer clear of this type of supplement and instead rely on changing my diet to adapt to the diabetes. I also had an appointment with a dietitian who gave me the same advice plus diet sheets on what was good, bad and food that I could treat myself to occasionally.

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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Postby StokeySue » April 15th, 2018, 11:33 am

Really, as NLB says, don't start adding products. Sort out a sustainable, effective diet.

Psyllium (ispaghula) husk is used to correct texture in some manufactured foods (which is a good use) and as a mild laxative / stool bulking agent in nedicine. Also sold as Fybogel laxative. Not a good idea as a regular detary supplement IMO

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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Postby Zosherooney » April 15th, 2018, 5:08 pm

I have to have colon tests every 7 years so thought it would cover a multitude of areas. As well as helping not to eat too much as it keeps you fuller for longer on less calories.
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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Postby StokeySue » April 15th, 2018, 6:27 pm

If you think you need laxative for that, talk to your doctor. In my limited experience most of them don't like it as aregular thing, you do get a rebound effect when you stop
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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Postby Ratatouille » April 15th, 2018, 6:47 pm

You can only get Fybogel on a doctors prescription here and when you do you are delivered firm warnings about it's use. I have used it a very few times and it can be helpful ut the though of regularly would make me very scared I'm afraid.
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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Postby Grasshopper » April 15th, 2018, 7:10 pm

Zosh - I am not casting nasturtiums about your figure, but Mum managed to come off her DB2 meds by losing several stones in weight.
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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Postby Zosherooney » April 15th, 2018, 7:43 pm

That's part of the plan Grassy..... :tu: :tu:
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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Postby dennispc » April 16th, 2018, 6:46 am

Fybrogel is prescribed here by GP's but can also be bought over the counter - not something I would describe as a supplement!

My lovely sister in law, eventually came off her diabetes tablets by diet alone.

Depends on type of colon test, but for colonoscopy little packets of 'medication' are sent in advance and strict instructions on diet.

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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Postby Zosherooney » April 16th, 2018, 9:34 am

Just been blood tested again and my reading is now down to 10 ! Not bad in a week. We will see what it is on Friday after my visit to the nurse.
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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Postby Suelle » April 16th, 2018, 9:41 am

Zosherooney wrote: As well as helping not to eat too much as it keeps you fuller for longer on less calories.


I wouldn't rely on something like that to curb your appetite unless you're sure a) you know when you are full and b) you can stop eating when you reach that point. There are groups of over-eaters who can't tell when they are full (I'm one of them) and also those who can't stop eating for psychological reasons rather than physical.
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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Postby PatsyMFagan » April 17th, 2018, 8:27 am

This morning I watched yesterday's programme that is usually on at 9.15 am with Angela Rippoff .... this is about health myths and facts ... as well as the benefits of running :shock: there was an interesting article about the pros and cons of daily mouth washes ..... there seems to be a (tenuous?) link with regular use and type 2 diabetes, also heart disease ... something to do with the mouth wash killing not only the bad bacteria that causes bad breath, but the good bacteria that can upset the body's defences. In this respect, Nitric Oxide was mentioned .. sounds awful, but in fact one of the good guys !
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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Postby Zosherooney » April 17th, 2018, 1:25 pm

Due to my tooth problem, I have been told to use the strong chemical MW - not the cheap s'market one to keep the area clean and infection free. I have had two hot salt water rinses since yesterday - again to lessen the risk of germs getting in, but it's a difficult area to maintain as you have to eat....
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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Postby Busybee » April 17th, 2018, 5:16 pm

When I had my wisdom teeth out at hospital under a general anaesthetic I was prescribed Cordysol mouthwash. Not pleasant but very effective.

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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Postby PatsyMFagan » April 17th, 2018, 5:17 pm

The programme did state that mouthwashes as advised by dr or dentist should be continued, but it was the ones that peeps use continually for bad breath that do the damage, :(
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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Postby Zosherooney » April 17th, 2018, 5:52 pm

BB that'll be the badger ! I found a Superdrug copy of the Cordysol for half the price. :tu: The treatment centre gave me a bottle yesterday as well.
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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Postby Busybee » April 17th, 2018, 6:08 pm

Zosherooney wrote:BB that'll be the badger ! I found a Superdrug copy of the Cordysol for half the price. :tu: The treatment centre gave me a bottle yesterday as well.


Make sure it has the same strength of active ingredient, sometimes they aren’t as strong hence the cheaper price.

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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Postby Zosherooney » April 17th, 2018, 6:14 pm

:tu: I did that BB :tu:
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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Postby PatsyMFagan » April 18th, 2018, 8:23 am

Just to clarify, the programme did warn against continuous use of mouthwashes, with no medical need, purely to freshen breath ...................
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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Postby StokeySue » April 18th, 2018, 8:49 am

Here's more detailed information on the mouthwash thing, from diabetes UK.
I wouldn't take antibiotics continuously, or use antibacterial shower gel (unless medically required) because it would disturb my friendly :wave: bacteria, so I suppose it makes sense not to kill off the buccal (mouth cavity) flora

https://www.diabetes.co.uk/news/2017/nov/twice-daily-mouthwash-use-could-increase-risk-of-type-2-diabetes-96895059.html
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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Postby aero280 » April 18th, 2018, 9:08 am

I don’t remember the details exactly, but I believe that all medicines have a recipe, and when approved, they are given a licence. The licence has a number beginning with a P. So something like P352975.

If that number is the same on the different sources of your mouthwash, then the the two are exactly the same. If the numbers are different, something has been changed.

That always assumes that mouthwash is a medicine covered by the licensing system.
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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Postby StokeySue » April 18th, 2018, 11:01 am

Nearly aero
The product licence is specific to both the formulation (recipe) and manufacturer.
So for example if you buy paracetamol tablets that are supermarket own brand, the chances are that the PL (product licence) number will link back to Galpharm who make a lot of these basic medicines, but it's quite likely that other manufactureres make them with a different PL.

Corsodyl is made by gsk who hold the original PL but if some other manufacturer makes a look-alike, they will have their own, different, PL
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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Postby aero280 » April 18th, 2018, 11:23 am

Thanks Sue. I only heard it as an aside. I'm pretty sure it was the Michael Mosley programme.
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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Postby Amber » April 18th, 2018, 8:33 pm

Ooh, I didn’t know about Galpharm, I’m fairly sure that’s the name of the company who makes (imho) the best cold sore cream. And at a fraction of the Zovirax cost.
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Re: Type 2 diabetes

Postby StokeySue » April 19th, 2018, 8:52 pm

Galpharm specialise in making what are called generics
That's to say tried snd tested (in this case non-prescriotion) medications that are no longer only made by the company that originated them, they sell to independent pharmacies under their own brand but also manufacture own brands for other people

Much as Greenall make most supermarket own brand premium London Dry Gins. :D Though those actually are all slightly different I understand.
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