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For the gardeners on here ...

Postby PatsyMFagan » May 13th, 2018, 6:35 pm

Any idea what this plant might be ? I don't think it's cannabis, but could easily be mistaken for it I think ;) :rolleyes: . It is growing quite prolifically in a neighbour's front garden :
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Re: For the gardeners on here ...

Postby Grasshopper » May 13th, 2018, 6:49 pm

Could be a type of Aloe Vera, but I'm no botanist.
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Re: For the gardeners on here ...

Postby PatsyMFagan » May 13th, 2018, 6:53 pm

Aloe Vera is a succulent..... these leaves are quite fine.
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Re: For the gardeners on here ...

Postby Suelle » May 13th, 2018, 6:55 pm

Could it be something as common as a lupin?
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Re: For the gardeners on here ...

Postby Grasshopper » May 13th, 2018, 6:58 pm

If it's a lupin, watch out for Dennis Moore! <Monty Python smiley>
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Re: For the gardeners on here ...

Postby Herbidacious » May 13th, 2018, 7:56 pm

Grasshopper wrote:If it's a lupin, watch out for Dennis Moore! <Monty Python smiley>
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Postby Herbidacious » May 13th, 2018, 7:56 pm

dum dum dum...
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Postby Herbidacious » May 13th, 2018, 8:01 pm

It does look rather cannabis-like. Do lupin leaves have serrated edges? I don't think mine do.
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Re: For the gardeners on here ...

Postby patpoyntz » May 13th, 2018, 8:57 pm

Hellebore? I have some in my garden, often mistaken for cannabis.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellebo ... 016_01.jpg
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Re: For the gardeners on here ...

Postby Suelle » May 13th, 2018, 9:06 pm

Herbidacious wrote: Do lupin leaves have serrated edges? I don't think mine do.


You're right - I was only looking at the general shape.

But I don't think they are Hellebores either.
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Postby juliana50 » May 13th, 2018, 9:13 pm

I think so too
Herbidacious wrote:t does look rather cannabis-like
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Re: For the gardeners on here ...

Postby suffolk » May 13th, 2018, 9:27 pm

It does look rather like one of the hemp family ... of which cannabis is one ... does the garden owner feed the birds ... many of the seed mixes contain hemp.
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Postby TeresaFoodie » May 13th, 2018, 9:40 pm

I was just about to say, do you have bird feeders? I had this problem once but couldn't remember the detail until I just read this.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... NABIS.html

Mine started growing about the same time that I got a bird feeder and put it next to a raised vegetable bed. I ended up with cannabis sprouting up in amongst my carrots! :lol:
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Re: For the gardeners on here ...

Postby scullion » May 13th, 2018, 9:53 pm

It's not cannabis - wrong leaf configuration and growth habit- they grew fields of it near us a few years back for the insulation in car dashboards etc - genetically modified - none of the good stuff in it.
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Postby Badger's mate » May 13th, 2018, 10:20 pm

hey grew fields of it near us a few years back for the insulation in car dashboards etc - genetically modified - none of the good stuff in it.


I remember a sign at the Eden Project about low-THC hemp, something to the effect that 'smoking a telegraph pole sized joint might make you feel mildly optimistic' :D
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Postby PatsyMFagan » May 14th, 2018, 7:54 am

It is only growing in on corner of the neighbours front garden ... so no bird feeders in sight. I had discounted hellebore as I've got loads of them myself ... Ah well, I will see what it grows into ;)
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Re: For the gardeners on here ...

Postby suffolk » May 14th, 2018, 8:56 am

Having looked at it on my laptop rather than my phone, I'm wavering about the hemp ... but it does look very familiar :oops: ... is it ok if I post it on GW Patsy?
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Re: For the gardeners on here ...

Postby scullion » May 14th, 2018, 9:23 am

Is there any chance it could be a type of pteris fern? What do the under side of the leaves look like? Are the leaves soft or a bit brittle?
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Re: For the gardeners on here ...

Postby miss mouse » May 14th, 2018, 10:02 am

Hellebore foetidus is my guess.

The third pic for the leaves

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helleborus_foetidus
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Postby Seatallan » May 14th, 2018, 11:53 am

I agree with Scully (they grow it near us too). Leaves are similar to hemp but I don't think it is. I'm inclining to lupin.
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Postby StokeySue » May 14th, 2018, 12:42 pm

It's the little well shape where the leaflets fuse makes me think not hemp family, surely the leaves are more planar with hemp? There used to be a load of cannabis growing along Chichester canal where the anglers had dropped hemp seed bait - as they soak the seed in water it got off to a good start :D

It does look familiar - if not lupin perhaps another legume? Or one of the less common lupins, not a Russell?
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Re: For the gardeners on here ...

Postby miss mouse » May 14th, 2018, 3:51 pm

IME (and I am not very visual) hemp plants are much more dainty, similar to Japanese Maples.
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Re: For the gardeners on here ...

Postby PatsyMFagan » May 14th, 2018, 4:27 pm

suffolk wrote:Having looked at it on my laptop rather than my phone, I'm wavering about the hemp ... but it does look very familiar :oops: ... is it ok if I post it on GW Patsy?


Yes please, I was hoping you would ... what might not be apparent is that the leaf groups are on a stem ...
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Postby PatsyMFagan » May 14th, 2018, 4:29 pm

miss mouse wrote:Hellebore foetidus is my guess.

The third pic for the leaves

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helleborus_foetidus


Ooh, that's a possibility ... I will look for a more mature plant - I said I would help tidy up/prune/weed the front garden ;) :tu:
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Postby suffolk » May 14th, 2018, 4:34 pm

In my experience hemp leaves are quite 'soft' with a slightly fuzzy surface. Helleborus foetida's leaves are quite leathery in texture.
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Re: For the gardeners on here ...

Postby miss mouse » May 14th, 2018, 4:51 pm

suffolk wrote:In my experience hemp leaves are quite 'soft' with a slightly fuzzy surface.


I'd agree. And rather tending towards lime green rather than dark green IME . Acres of them in France. The leaves are very dainty.
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Re: For the gardeners on here ...

Postby scullion » May 15th, 2018, 4:52 pm

miss mouse wrote:IME (and I am not very visual) hemp plants are much more dainty, similar to Japanese Maples.

Hahaha - not when they're towering above you! The leaves of hemp are also, when full grown, bigger than a large, spread out hand, much larger than those of an Acer palmatum. They also have a slightly gluey feel - and an obvious smell.
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Postby miss mouse » May 15th, 2018, 6:26 pm

I said 'similar to Acer Palmatum'. Yes I know how tall they can be.The leaves remain dainty despite their great height.
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Re: For the gardeners on here ...

Postby PatsyMFagan » May 21st, 2018, 9:06 am

On the suggestion of BusyBee, I used an app on my phone to identify this plant (you learn something everyday as I would never have thought of that :oops: ) .... so it seems this plant might be Helleborous Foetidus (sp?) Stinking Hellebore .... this seedling will go down the bottom of my garden - not because if stinks but it is more wild than cultivated I think and would appreciate a shady spot. :tu:
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Re: For the gardeners on here ...

Postby scullion » May 21st, 2018, 9:13 am

A friend who lectures in gardening bought an app for her phone, tried it out on known plants, and the app got it wrong on every one but asked for suggestion - she decided she wasn't going to do their work for them.
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Postby patpoyntz » May 21st, 2018, 9:33 am

That was my suggestion as soon as I saw it....
I have lots in the wilder parts of my garden. The bright lime green flowers are a splash of very welcome colour early in the year. I don’t notice a bad smell, and sometimes have it flower arrangements in the house.
It seeds itself very prolifically.
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Re: For the gardeners on here ...

Postby PatsyMFagan » May 21st, 2018, 3:38 pm

Sorry Pat, I missed your post ... or else, I read it and thought it couldn't possibly be that :oops:
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Re: For the gardeners on here ...

Postby patpoyntz » May 21st, 2018, 5:08 pm

That’s quite understandable Pat, if you are only used to the type of hellebore with large flowers and large leaves, this one is so different. I’d hate to be without it!
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Postby StokeySue » May 21st, 2018, 5:09 pm

Which app did you get Pat?
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Postby PatsyMFagan » May 21st, 2018, 8:53 pm

this one is Pl@ntNet .... it worked for me and is free ;)
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