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Re: pastel de nata

Postby earthmaiden » July 14th, 2018, 6:35 am

StokeySue wrote:I find the Chinatown ones too eggy, the Portuguese pastels de nata are called "cream" (nata) pastries because the are creamy, I think they are a bit different.

Whilst any such concoction is nice, I fear that once they are commonplace in places like the Coop they will not be anything like the real thing. So many things have gone that way and many people have no idea that the real version is a very special delight.
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby TeresaFoodie » July 14th, 2018, 8:29 am

beldubby wrote:A few years ago M&S did them at Christmas - think they were small ones in their party food range. They had them on a 3 for 2 deal - I seem to remember that they froze quite successfully.


:tu: Brilliant as Co-op usually do a multi deal on pastries and I wouldn't want to put myself in a position of having to eat four at once!
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby scullion » July 14th, 2018, 8:50 am

i'll take the fall for you, tezza. i'll put one of the ones i bought yesterday into the freezer for a couple of days. it would be good to know.

i have to say, the ones we had in portugall in february were a bit of a different animal. the pastry was much more buttery, finer layers and crisper. they also had a slight hint of lemon, more than most i've tasted here. and the surface had more, darker patches.
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby PatsyMFagan » July 14th, 2018, 9:26 am

I was at Kew gardens yesterday .. went with a friend who wanted to see the new Temperate Houser refurbishment …. we had a nice lunch while there - and the first thing I saw was pastel de nata £2.25 each :aww: :shock: :( Twice the price of those in Waitrose … I didn't partake ;) Lunch of a self-service bowl of a gorgeous salad, egg mayo sandwich and a small tub of ice cream cost £14.50 !!! :o :shock: :rolleyes:
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby scullion » July 14th, 2018, 10:02 am

they're 49p in lidl.

my lunch yesterday - a bottle of fentimans ginger beer and a well stuffed egg and tomato sandwich from the nt café - cost £3.50.
i had a gooseberry ice lolly a couple of hours later which cost £1.
we get half price off.
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby StokeySue » July 14th, 2018, 10:55 am

PatsyMFagan wrote:Lunch of a self-service bowl of a gorgeous salad, egg mayo sandwich and a small tub of ice cream cost £14.50 !!!


I find that the café is where many of these places are making their income

I will be looking out for gooseberry ice lollies now scully!
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby Badger's mate » July 14th, 2018, 2:17 pm

I think they're cheaper from the stall outside Kew Gardens station, but can't remember how much.
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby mum-at-the-oven » July 14th, 2018, 2:47 pm

They're 90p in the Co-Op

I think I may take a trip to Lidl for research purposes ;)
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby PatsyMFagan » July 14th, 2018, 4:37 pm

mum-at-the-oven wrote:I think I may take a trip to Lidl for research purposes


I may have to do the same ;) :chops:
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby StokeySue » July 14th, 2018, 5:46 pm

I must go to Lidl for a few things...
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby Badger's mate » July 14th, 2018, 9:23 pm

I like their pickled herrings, in creamy sauces
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby StokeySue » July 14th, 2018, 11:32 pm

I'm picky about pickled herring. Very picky :geek:
I really want the rollmops from Hamburger Products of blessed memory, a German Jewish deli on Brewer Street in Soho. Best ever, they were arranged in a sort of ceramic pond in the shop window, in concentric rings of tightly rolled deliciousness :hungry:
So oniony, not creamy, and what I don't like about the Lidl ones is that spear of weird grey cucumber in the middle of the roll :sprout:

I liked Orkney herrings, now sadly gone, and the closest to those I can find now are Morrisons own roll mops, there's usually a tub in the fridge.
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby PatsyMFagan » July 18th, 2018, 9:15 am

In my continuing search for the perfect pastel de nata, I visited Lidl yesterday and bought a couple … they were actually delicious; better than the WR ones and closer in taste and texture to those I had in Hong Kong and London China Town (they were usually warm) ;) :chops: … Oh, I also bought some herrings in cream as well as a few other things … a tub of Scottish Millionaires Ice cream included :oops: I didn't bother getting the little electric machine that made face packs … yes I do mean face packs :o :? .... those ones that you lay on your skin, made of fruit and other stuff and then peel off ……. I would have taken a photo, but didn't have my phone with me. :aww:
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby earthmaiden » July 18th, 2018, 9:26 am

Reckon that the Nutri Bullet would make such face packs as well Pat :lol: . Your trip to Lidl sounds like my trips there - that's why I don't go often .. too many calorific treats!
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby PatsyMFagan » July 18th, 2018, 11:38 am

earthmaiden wrote:Reckon that the Nutri Bullet would make such face packs as well Pat :lol: . Your trip to Lidl sounds like my trips there - that's why I don't go often .. too many calorific treats!


:lol: :lol: :lol: The picture on the box of this machine showed a one of those face packs with the eyes and mouth cut out... the mind boggles !

I have to restrict my visits to Lidl.... however yesterday went to a Fitsteps class at noon, and it was then only a mile away, so mad not to ! ;) :lol:
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby TeresaFoodie » July 18th, 2018, 3:26 pm

My local Sainsbury's sell Portuguese tarts in their cafe but I couldn't see them in their bakery. In the cafe they looked a lot more inviting than the regular custard tarts sitting alongside them. I might have to try one next time I'm in there as our local bakery don't do them and the space for their basket in the Co-op has gone AWOL. So a rare treat in these parts! Lidl a bit too far for me to walk just yet! But it's on my radar!
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby TeresaFoodie » July 19th, 2018, 6:13 pm

Eureka, I managed to get my hands on one. Sainsbury's cafe. I was not overly impressed and am guessing theirs are not the most authentic ones. Very eggy and flabby. Nowhere near as nice as ordinary custard tarts. Still ate it though!
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby earthmaiden » July 19th, 2018, 6:25 pm

How sad Tezza. The real ones have crisp pastry and not too soft custard, very different to a British custard tart. I seem to remember a conversation here a while back where we decided that many nations had their own take on the custard tart. I can't remember any of the others.

Hope your Lidl has them Tezza, ours doesn't.
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby KC2 » July 19th, 2018, 7:40 pm

A news item came up when I opened the internet on my tablet today, which was an article about how Lidl has launched their new Portuguese custard tarts, at 49 p ... needless to say, us Wildies are ahead of the game :lol: :lol:
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby Badger's mate » July 20th, 2018, 6:42 am

I can confirm that the Lidls in Tain and Oban stock them...

Not sure how much use that information is! :D
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby scullion » July 20th, 2018, 6:52 am

probably as much use as me saying, in the original post, that a cafe in st agnes and the lidl in helston have them!
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby patpoyntz » July 20th, 2018, 8:12 am

Badger's mate wrote:I can confirm that the Lidls in Tain and Oban stock them...

Not sure how much use that information is! :D


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Re: pastel de nata

Postby suffolk » July 20th, 2018, 8:22 am

For those Wildies in London

https://galeta.co.uk/order/pasteis-de-nata/ :drool:
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby PatsyMFagan » July 20th, 2018, 9:28 am

KC2 wrote:A news item came up when I opened the internet on my tablet today, which was an article about how Lidl has launched their new Portuguese custard tarts, at 49 p ... needless to say, us Wildies are ahead of the game :lol: :lol:


One of my fb friends posted that too ;) :tu:
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby StokeySue » July 20th, 2018, 10:27 am

There are quite a few Portuguese delis in London, most sell pasteis de nata. Notably Ferreira's in Camden.

And Mr Google says there is one quite local, I think it has relocated, I wondered where tge original had gone
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby KC2 » July 20th, 2018, 11:20 am

Lisboa, near Portobello Road, does fantastic ones.
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby Seatallan » July 20th, 2018, 3:08 pm

patpoyntz wrote:And Dingwall!


:D

Pick me up some butteries whilst you're at it would you, patpoyntz? :chops:
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby patpoyntz » July 20th, 2018, 4:31 pm

Seatallan wrote:
patpoyntz wrote:And Dingwall!


:D

Pick me up some butteries whilst you're at it would you, patpoyntz? :chops:


Oh, Seat, I REALLY have to avoid butteries.....but they are are such a treat now and then. Do you put butter on yours?
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby Seatallan » July 21st, 2018, 9:28 am

patpoyntz wrote:Oh, Seat, I REALLY have to avoid butteries.....but they are are such a treat now and then. Do you put butter on yours?


I like them toasted but plain but Mr S likes them with gallons of butter. :D They are fab aren't they? Desperately unhealthy and high in calories but SO tasty. Of course, none of the supermarkets down here stock them so I go through periodic phases of making them (I use the 'Hairy Biker Baking Book' recipe). Coincidentally, Mr S reminded me only yesterday that I've not made any for yonks so I've promised him a batch next week. :hungry:

They always remind me of my deceased friend actually- she was an Abderdonian by birth and grew up on the original Rowies. I made a batch for her when she was ill in the hope of tempting her precarious appetite and she did manage to eat a few (which made me happy).
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby KC2 » July 21st, 2018, 10:50 am

I was on a bus this morning and spotted what I am pretty certain was a tray of pastel de natas through the window. I popped into a different Co-op later and they were having problems with their deliveries apparently and so had no fresh bakery. How much are the Co-op ones when they're there?
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby suffolk » July 21st, 2018, 10:51 am

StokeySue wrote:There are quite a few Portuguese delis in London, most sell pasteis de nata....


The one I linked to delivers to London addresses :mrgreen:
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby slimpersoninside » July 24th, 2018, 3:41 pm

I had one from Waitrose at lunchtime, very dangerous as I'm quite a fan of them.

I was pleased to note that my homemade ones stand up very well by comparison to the "professional" ones I've had (never knowingly eaten a Portuguese one though!).
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby uschi » July 24th, 2018, 3:48 pm

Hi Debbie! Axel and I sometimes make them, but we cheat and use a custard mix from Dr Oetker's. :lol:
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby slimpersoninside » July 24th, 2018, 4:43 pm

Hey Uschi, how you doing in this hot weather?

I make mine using this recipe. I use a tad more cornflour and a bit less sugar.

https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/181 ... tard-tarts

Tell me more about the Dr Oetker's custard mix ;) .
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby uschi » July 24th, 2018, 6:15 pm

I am slowly melting, Debbie. It is 31° C without, and 25° C. Puuuh!!!

We just make "Vanillepudding" (aka custard)
https://www.oetker.de/unsere-produkte/original-pudding-vanille-geschmack.html
and use that with a puff pastry in muffin tins. Oh, and we sprinkle them with a hint of sugar and cinnamon.

I did not know them, Axel indtroduced me to them. Very yummy.

I hope you two are OK! :wave:
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby earthmaiden » July 25th, 2018, 10:30 am

I have just been to Lidl and they had them .. 'while stocks last'. I noticed that regular customers (retired couples mostly) went for their usual buns and didn't even look at the tarts.
I have just had mine for elevenses. Very nice, very different to those I have had in Lisbon (pastry too light with soggy bottom, too much custard not set very hard, little caramelisation). A nice treat though.
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby scullion » July 29th, 2018, 1:15 pm

scullion wrote:i'll take the fall for you, tezza. i'll put one of the ones i bought yesterday into the freezer for a couple of days. it would be good to know.


purely in the advancement of knowledge, honest, i've just eaten the one i froze.
i popped it, frozen, into the oven at 150°c for 15 or 20 mins (i think, cos i was doing something else at the time). when i took it out i cooled it out of the foil cup so the bottom would stay crispy.
it was a success. the pastry was good and crispy/flaky and the custard didn't split. i had thought of giving half to my partner for a second opinion - but i decided i didn't need it - so i didn't.
so, Q.E.D - they freeze.
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby slimpersoninside » July 29th, 2018, 6:52 pm

Thanks for taking the hit for the Wildies scully ;) :D .

Now I know they freeze well and how to successfully rejuvienate (sp?) them I'll go ahead and make another batch.
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby aero280 » July 30th, 2018, 9:15 am

I was tempted by some in the “quiet cafe” at the back of the Priory Garden Centre in Redhill, but I stuck with a cup of coffee so as not to spoil the imminent wedding breakfast.
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby suffolk » August 20th, 2018, 2:33 pm

Here you are folks ... you'll all have to come to Norfolk for a taste of The Real Thing ...

http://www.edp24.co.uk/business/teles-p ... -1-5657011

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Re: pastel de nata

Postby Meganthemog » August 20th, 2018, 3:42 pm

A Portuguese friend wrote on this subject for the magazine some years ago - she gave us a step by step recipe. https://www.theswanseabay.co.uk/2015/06 ... ht=custard

I had a good bit of feedback that it produced great results.
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby earthmaiden » August 20th, 2018, 4:17 pm

Until this thread started, I thought I had only ever seen them in the Lisbon area. Now they seem to be everywhere! There was a stall specialising in them at our local farmer's market last weekend with a rather over-zealous man (presumably Portuguese) calling out to ladies (I was with DD) to sample his wares. We avoided him on the way back even though his wares looked quite inviting, he was too tiresome.

Thank you for the recipe mogs, It looks good and authentic. It would be fun to have a Wildie sampling day with our collection of recipes (or at least a Norfolk meet in Surlingham!).
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby suffolk » August 20th, 2018, 4:52 pm

earthmaiden wrote:a Norfolk meet in Surlingham!


Now that's a very good idea :tu:
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby PatsyMFagan » August 20th, 2018, 5:16 pm

suffolk wrote:
earthmaiden wrote:a Norfolk meet in Surlingham!


Now that's a very good idea :tu:


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Re: pastel de nata

Postby Ratatouille » September 13th, 2018, 12:34 pm

Hot off the press Picard are now stocking frozen ones. I'll reprot back after I have tried one!!
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby Busybee » September 13th, 2018, 1:06 pm

Ratatouille wrote:Hot off the press Picard are now stocking frozen ones. I'll reprot back after I have tried one!!


Now you have me intrigued Rats.........are they cooked from frozen, facilitating a still warm, and just so wibbley wobbly custard? Or, already cooked and just needs thawing?

Either way it’s been more than 30 minutes..........how much longer? :lol: :lol:

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Re: pastel de nata

Postby Ratatouille » September 13th, 2018, 1:11 pm

I haven't read the instructions yet :oops: :oops: Just grabbed a packet to try. I'll read it when I go downstairs and let you know.
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby karadekoolaid » September 14th, 2018, 12:03 am

The ones I ate in Lisbon in March were delicious - and I´m not a " custard tart" person. These were simply gloriously creamy, light and utterly moreish.
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby PatsyMFagan » September 14th, 2018, 5:29 pm

I went along to my local Lidl today …. I needed gin (for sloe gin) and vodka (for blackcurrant vodka) ;) :lol: 8-) and noticed that they no longer seem to be selling pastel de nata :( :o so I bought a couple of chocolate cookies instead, to munch on while I made my way round the store, ending up spending £60 :shock: How did that happen :?: :lol: :? :rolleyes:
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Re: pastel de nata

Postby earthmaiden » September 14th, 2018, 5:35 pm

They only seem to have them sometimes in the Lidl I go to. Your spend is the reason I don't go to Lidl very often ;)
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