The nightmare before Christmas!!

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The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby aero280 » November 13th, 2018, 10:40 pm

Tomorrow morning at 8 o'clock the scaffolders arrive to cover the house so that we can have our loft conversion. OH is very stressed. I spent 40 years on and around construction sites, so a little less stressed. But it's different when it's your house and your money... :o
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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby earthmaiden » November 13th, 2018, 11:18 pm

Oh Christmas joy! How long is it supposed to take?

I'm sure that Zosh can give you plenty of reassurance ;).
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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby uschi » November 14th, 2018, 6:25 am

Fingers crossed it will all go smoothly!!! And if it takes longer you can string the fairy lights around the scaffolding ... ;) :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby Zosherooney » November 14th, 2018, 7:03 am

Aero, The OAP's as I call them that did a good job on the Hobbit House (locked garage, drive through the other side and studio over) but took forever! Far too long and the staff talked too much ! Seems (unlike women) they can't talk and work at the same time !

The new kids on the block (much younger) are fast and won't stop to chat as time is money !!!! However, we did notice one wall leaning in and pointed it out - it was corrected. Noticed yesterday we are some cavity wall insulation missing, it will be pointed out today.

I would say, stay on site and keep a beady eye on them.

No building yesterday as the main mans son was having his tonsils out - I stayed in my jim jams all day - it was heaven !!!

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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby aero280 » November 14th, 2018, 8:50 pm

I spent 40 supervising and managing sites. Dredging the memory now!!

Scaffolding should be done by tomorrow. Building starts in earnest on Monday. Roof to be tiled and watertight by Christmas. Then the internal insulation and plasterboard in new year. Whole job including garage etc. should be all finished by mid Feb. A mix of English, Polish and the boss is Albanian.
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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby Amber » November 14th, 2018, 9:45 pm

I like the idea of Christmas fairy lights on the scaffolding ;) :D :D .
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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby Zosherooney » November 16th, 2018, 5:23 am

Nearly up to ground floor ceiling height in bricks and blockwork, scaffolding going up Monday. It seems that the missing insulation is because the gap was too narrow (existing footing used) so some sort of special interior insulation being used. Other good news is because we took out a blockwork wall, the new interior wall can be stud work so we can now move interior walls to suit us.

An international job then Aero ?
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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby aero280 » November 16th, 2018, 9:02 am

I just hope that they finish the job before they are all “sent back home”!! :o
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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby earthmaiden » November 16th, 2018, 11:54 am

:cry:
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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby aero280 » November 16th, 2018, 1:10 pm

I'm eating my lunch, looking out of the window and watching sheets of corrugated iron being hoisted aloft. :o
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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby aero280 » November 23rd, 2018, 8:42 pm

The house looks like this from outside...

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The men have been here a week since the scaffold was finished. Roof is completely off and the new floor was completed this afternoon, along with the plumber moving the water and central heating tanks. The window man came yesterday to measure up for the new windows - quoted 25% of the price we had last year from a well known national window company :o Electrician due on Monday to rewire the area under the floor.

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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby earthmaiden » November 23rd, 2018, 8:46 pm

Wow! You've picked good 'uns there!
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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby aero280 » November 23rd, 2018, 8:52 pm

I'm very happy with them so far. Not as stressful as I expected. But I find myself slipping back into problem solving and contract manager mode. I'm really too old for this!! But it's what I enjoyed about working in construction! :)
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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby aero280 » November 24th, 2018, 4:33 pm

Slightly stressful day today. Two men turned up this morning and started work on the roof. The stress came when the second guy, who hasn't been here before, moved some scaffold boards and pulled the phone line off the neighbours house!! :o BT quoted "up to 5 days for a repair", but by pure serendipity, the electrician who turned up half an hour later to measure up for the work next week, said , "Do you want me to fix the phone line? It's very easy". I said "Yes"; my neighbour said "Yes" and he did it! :)

But, peering through the gaps in the scaffold, it seems that the two men here today have provided us with the beginnings of a roof... :)

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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby aero280 » November 29th, 2018, 4:11 pm

Still progressing well, and the wind didn't blow the scaffolding away in the night... :o

All rafters in place and rooflight hole cut. End wall built. And the loft ladder arrived! :)

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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby suffolk » November 29th, 2018, 4:30 pm

Jolly good going so far :) :tu:
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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby Zosherooney » November 29th, 2018, 11:42 pm

Great inroads !
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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby aero280 » November 30th, 2018, 6:55 pm

The roof timbers are finished. The membrane is on. Roof tiling starts tomorrow...

Today has been a concreting and tidying up day for the groundworkers. We have a concreted area at the back of the house for parking, which only had room for one car. We have been parking past it on the grass, which got vey muddy, so the parking area is now concrete.

Also tomorrow, we are expecting some specialists to remove the old corrugated asbestos cement from the side of the part demolished garage. Previous lot did half a job and disappeared. :) A bit worried because our neighbour is terrified that her house will be contaminated with asbestos. I've worked with asbestos cement for many years and the risk is low because the dust particles are rarely small enough to be dangerous as they are attached to cement particles. But rules are rules. We were allowed to work with it if it was wet.
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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby earthmaiden » November 30th, 2018, 10:20 pm

Sounding good aero! I discovered a good few years ago that my roof tiles are made of asbestos. I pray they see me out. The fuss over the board my electricity meter is mounted on was bad enough (and no-one's sure what it's made of!).
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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby aero280 » December 2nd, 2018, 4:41 pm

Today has been quiet on the work front. So I had a nose around up top. We almost have a room! :)

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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby Zosherooney » December 2nd, 2018, 9:26 pm

Loadsa space Aero !!!

2nd lift on the scaffolding next week. Then more brick and blockwork. Weather is iffy on some days but we are still ahead of schedule...It would be nice to be watertight by Crimbo.
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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby earthmaiden » December 2nd, 2018, 9:49 pm

I'm starting to feel a little envious of all the building work. Not envious of the upheaval of course but the results!
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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby aero280 » December 8th, 2018, 7:03 pm

We have a roof! :)

Roof tiling is complete. It's been water tested. Guttering and fascia boards fitted. End gable has been pebble dashed. Roof room internal insulation started. Second coat of paint goes on the outside next week, and when it's done around the top floor, the scaffold comes down. :tu: :tu:

Next week we investigate the repair of the leaky roof on our old 1983 flat roof on the rear single storey extension.

After Christmas the side extension that's replacing the tiny garage.

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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby earthmaiden » December 8th, 2018, 7:47 pm

Wow!!
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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby PatsyMFagan » December 9th, 2018, 8:41 pm

Are you auditioning for 'Double your House for Half the Money' Will :?: ;) ;) ( A Sarah Beeney programme)
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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby aero280 » December 9th, 2018, 10:33 pm

Even with the house doubled in size, there won't be much more room. I married a hoarder!! :) But I don't do anything like that. I am careful and only save things I might need in future... :o :bounce: :bounce:
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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby aero280 » December 11th, 2018, 1:05 am

We have a front door! :) And a letterbox. No more damp newspapers and post.

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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby Zosherooney » December 11th, 2018, 6:32 pm

My front door is now hidden behind a wall and not accessible unless you know the route. Post is left in the recycle box by the Christmas tree. We are not likely to have a useable front door for some months to come.
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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby PatsyMFagan » December 11th, 2018, 6:58 pm

I now have a working shower … the new doors were eventually delivered last Saturday. :tu: As my plumber mistakenly threw all the packaging away for the original (wrong size doors) I now have the task of packing and returning these doors at my own expense. The weekend man has his uses - he can get a works van and as neither of us is working between 21st December and Jan 3rd... we should be able to do it on one of the working days.

However, the still tiling needs to be finished and this will also be done early in the new year. By comparison to others, this is a small problem and actually all my own fault - I should have read the order confirmation and not assumed that I had ordered the correct size shower to start with :oops: :cry: :rolleyes:
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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby Ratatouille » December 11th, 2018, 7:31 pm

Aero I can highly reccomend to your OH our philosophy in life since we moved here. One thing in, one thing out. Promise it works and you feel so good when you do it!! We have decluttered to an amazing extent.
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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby aero280 » December 11th, 2018, 11:52 pm

I have left OH upstairs working through the piles that need throwing out, but they can't go until checked...

The problem is that I have to abandon OH to this task as the dust sets off my asthma. :(
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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby aero280 » December 12th, 2018, 12:00 am

Tomorrow the builders move inside the house!! Up to now they have worked above the ceiling and used the scaffold for access. Now they have to break through and install the loft ladder. There is also an investigative hole in the flat roof of the old extension to see if the squirrels have caused any serious damage to the structure or the electrics...
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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby aero280 » December 12th, 2018, 9:53 am

Builder was about to open a hole in the flat roof when the heavens opened and it poured with rain!! :( Well, it did say that there was a 10% chance of rain.
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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby aero280 » December 13th, 2018, 11:04 am

The loft is insulated and plasterboarded ready for plastering. And we have a hole in the ceiling for the loft ladder! :)

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Men are removing our leaky flat roof to inspect for squirrel damage and rot. No rot in the main joists so far - Phew! :) But very noisy underneath. :(

The flat roof is fenced and used as a balcony. It was tiled. Almost certainly with asbestos reinforced tiles... :o Another special disposal. More cost. :(
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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby aero280 » December 13th, 2018, 7:49 pm

We have access to the new room!! :)

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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby aero280 » December 14th, 2018, 9:03 pm

It's been a stressful 24 hours :(

When the final bits of the flat roof of the existing rear extension were removed, it was found that not only had the joist ends rotted (the ends we couldn't see earlier) but that they had been cut into to form the internal roof gutter. The reason it had leaked was that it was just formed in the felt without any tin or lead beneath. :( it had last quite well though, but it shouldn't have leaked through and rotted the joists when the felt did fail. So a completely new flat roof needed. :evil: The builders turned up mob handed this morning, removed the tarpaulin, removed the old joists, fitted the new joists, some temporary boards and the tarpaulin. Tomorrow we will have a waterproof top with plasterboard under. Monday the roofers will come to lay the permanent roof. We have spent yesterday evening and a very early start this morning clearing all the contents of the two rooms under the roof. Just another unexpected job...

But on the bright side, the scaffolders start the dismantling tomorrow!! :)
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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby earthmaiden » December 14th, 2018, 10:16 pm

Gawd, there's always something! Sounds like your excellent team is on the ball though! The ladder reminds me of a 45 minute lecture we once had at a workplace you would recognise. It was about ladder safety. I'm sorry to say that yours might not have passed - any which did not have a safety handrail were removed from the site :rolleyes:.
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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby aero280 » December 15th, 2018, 9:39 pm

Well, a lot of it didn't happen today. :(

The wind was too unpredictable to safely remove the corrugated sheeting and the large poly wrapping. So now deferred to Monday. And the rain came early so the boarding is only temporary as they had to put the tarpaulin back and move indoors. But it was really too cold to work properly.
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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby Zosherooney » December 15th, 2018, 11:01 pm

I know that feeling... rubbish weather negated any bricks/blocks being laid today..... :| Gods in charge.... !
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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby aero280 » December 18th, 2018, 2:23 pm

Scaffolding is down!! :)

Flat roof is watertight and will be finished tomorrow.

Plastering tomorrow. Drying out over Christmas. Painting in new year. Then the side extension starts, replacing the derelict garage which is too small to get a modern car inside.
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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby earthmaiden » December 18th, 2018, 2:27 pm

You certainly picked good builders aero!
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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby aero280 » December 18th, 2018, 3:46 pm

We have a house!! :)

Still some tidying to do. But it will be substantially ready by Christmas. Then after Christmas, it will be the garage replacement and the painting of the new plaster in the house.

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The rear extension which had the last minute rotten joists will be rendered outside in the New Year, but flat roof is on and waterproof.

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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby Zosherooney » December 18th, 2018, 6:53 pm

On a side line.... I notice you had a portaloo in the front of the house. We elected not to have one for phase II - we are £600 better off !!! :tu: They have the option of using our downstairs loo but they don't seem to 'go'!!!! :scared: Also the summer portaloo stank (even emptied) and attracted vermin !!!!
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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby aero280 » December 18th, 2018, 7:22 pm

Round here it's quite normal on all building work. The H&S regulations do allow to the householder to offer other arrangements, but very few around here do. The builders also seem to bring all their on food and drink, usually twelve packs of CocaCola and pizza or chicken wings from the Costco along the road.
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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby earthmaiden » December 18th, 2018, 10:12 pm

I wonder if your compost heap is thriving this year Zosh?
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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby aero280 » December 19th, 2018, 9:38 pm

New top room is plastered and they have started to render the existing extension. Hopefully getting ahead of schedule. It will allow the plaster and render to dry over Christmas, ready for painting in the New Year.

I am choosing cheap lights to get the place lit up, then we can take our time choosing the right lights later.
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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby slimpersoninside » December 20th, 2018, 6:54 pm

Good to hear it's going well for you.

Our neighbours had an extension built. Started at the beginning of February due to take 16 weeks, finished in November!
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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby aero280 » December 20th, 2018, 10:08 pm

I'm surprised how quickly and well they've been working. I spent over 40 years in construction, so I know a bit about building, and they aren't cutting corners.
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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby Zosherooney » December 20th, 2018, 10:22 pm

Simp. our phase I over ran from 4 to 7 months..... :rolleyes: Phase II is doing well in spite of the carp weather and roof trusses are due 7th Jan. With a serious look at what we are doing, it is adding a 2 bed house to our existing...... They are working their socks off. :tu: We have brickies here tomorrow and Sat..... :evil: will be pleased..... She is doing her best at being a pain.
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Re: The nightmare before Christmas!!

Postby slimpersoninside » December 21st, 2018, 10:15 pm

Hope both projects continue to progress well. It must be a nightmare to cope with at the best of times.
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