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One for Ratatouille. I think

Postby cyprusmoira » March 4th, 2019, 6:30 am

Ratatouille, have you any news of this problem?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/0 ... els-opium/
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Re: One for Ratatouille. I think

Postby StokeySue » March 4th, 2019, 9:40 am

I think the journalist should learn to fact check

They say that poppy seeds do not usually contain any opiates

The kind of sweet poppy seed used in cooking normally does contain very low levels of opiates, though clearly the current French levelslevels are unusual and unacceptable

I’m sure many of us will remember Angela Rippon deliberately failing a drugs test by eating poppy seed bread for only three days

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/may/29/angela-rippon-tests-positive-for-opiates-in-poppy-seed-experiment
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Re: One for Ratatouille. I think

Postby earthmaiden » March 4th, 2019, 9:50 am

Wow, I had not heard the Angela Rippon story before. Actually, this reminds me of our recent discussion about intolerances. It just shows how a rogue batch of something seemingly innocent can cause havoc.
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Re: One for Ratatouille. I think

Postby Ratatouille » March 4th, 2019, 10:00 am

There have been reports in the French media but they haven't got overly excited about it. Poppy seed bread is not seen very much any way but I suppose if someone decided to eat more for reasons best known to themselvesthen such articles might just enncourage them.
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Re: One for Ratatouille. I think

Postby aero280 » March 4th, 2019, 10:29 am

I think the Telegraph writer needs to get out more. How can anyone in this day and age state that the presence of opiates in poppy seeds is “so far unexplained”. :o
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Re: One for Ratatouille. I think

Postby StokeySue » March 4th, 2019, 10:46 am

Agreed aero
The strains of poppy seeds used in food should contain very little opiate, as obviously they use strains selected for low opiate content and sweet flavour
However the poppy species used is papaver somniferum , the opium poppy
To collect the drug you actually collect the latex (dried sap) by slashing the underripe seed capsule and allowing it to ooze, then you collect the gooey raw opium

So just off the top of my head there are 3 obvious ways you could get a batch of poppy seed with more than usual opiate
1. Growing a different strain of poppy
2. An unusual growing season that makes the plants produce more opium
3. Contamination of the seeds with sap / latex, presumably during harvesting

Probably an expert could come up with more
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Re: One for Ratatouille. I think

Postby Ratatouille » March 4th, 2019, 1:07 pm

One of the reports in France did mention that a different strain had been used by mistake. It is quite interesting that in the years when the poppies really flourish in the corn field at the bottom of the hameau the smell really is quite intoxicating.
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Re: One for Ratatouille. I think

Postby StokeySue » March 4th, 2019, 2:30 pm

Corn poppies are quite distantly related to opium poppies

At one point you needed a license to grow opium poppies in the UK but they gave up, I think because in the UK climate they aren’t very punchy and with so many food grade seeds about it was uninforceable anyway.

To be honest you get a better display from the related ornamental Oriental poppies which have been selected to look good in gardens. These seem to have gone wild in NE London over the last few years - last summer I kept finding them round the Lea Valley
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Re: One for Ratatouille. I think

Postby Ratatouille » March 4th, 2019, 2:47 pm

Never mind about poppy seeds on bread rolls :

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-47432244
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Re: One for Ratatouille. I think

Postby StokeySue » March 4th, 2019, 3:13 pm

Oh dear - that’s awful. But it does have its funny aspects
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Re: One for Ratatouille. I think

Postby Ratatouille » March 4th, 2019, 7:23 pm

It's my twisted sense of humour Sue :tu:
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