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Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby Pepper Pig » January 13th, 2020, 1:01 pm

Following on from the other thread!

I'll put my hand up to having collected a series of Flower Fairies hanging plates in the late seventies. You can't give them away now but they are quite decorative and annnoy my minimalist kids no end!

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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby Seatallan » January 13th, 2020, 1:08 pm

When we were in the process of decluttering prior to our house move I finally got shot of a set of Tolkein Lord of the Rings hanging plates that my parents gave me as a Christmas present once years ago. I was going to put them on E-bay but discovered there were at least another 8 sets already on and none of them were attracting much interest. I got rid of them via Freecycle in the end.

We had a large glass chess set which we also thought we'd make a wee bit on but the same thing happened- there were already loads on E-bay (again, we got shot of it on Freecycyle).

We tried to get rid of 48 concrete pantiles too (don't ask) but no-one would bite (so we had to gradually take them to local dump :rolleyes: ).
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby suffolk » January 13th, 2020, 1:15 pm

I take it as a rule of thumb that anything sold as a ‘collectible’ will be worth only 10% max of its purchase price ... including so-called ‘commemorative coins’ within a month of it being purchased and that value is only likely to decrease. Having spent a lot of time at ‘antiques and collectibles’ auctions it’s so sad to see folk hoping to realise a lot of money from their ‘investment’. :cry:
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby Pepper Pig » January 13th, 2020, 1:25 pm

I worked for a musical instrument dealer for ten years in the seventies/eighties Suffs. He never went for "collectible" but for class, quality and history. He made an awful lot of money. The bottom hasn't quite fallen out of the market there but it's pretty damn close.
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby aero280 » January 13th, 2020, 1:28 pm

We have the same sort of thing at the car club with cars. Almost everything being sold secondhand seems to be described as "Very rare" or "Future Classic" :D

Most are heaps of rust. Rare cars are rare for a reason - nobody wants them and they were rubbish in the first place and got scrapped when they broke down!!


And...

Can I interest anyone in buying (at an inflated price, of course!!) a couple of small, heavy, old cathode ray TV's that are languishing in the shed? :D :D
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby Pepper Pig » January 13th, 2020, 1:30 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby Herbidacious » January 13th, 2020, 3:22 pm

I have an exhaustive collection of Wade Whimsies from my childhood ('70s) which part of me thinks may one day be valuable. They are of extreme sentimenal value though, if of highly dubious taste. I only want them to be valuable to have an acceptable (to husband) justification for keeping them. (Although tbh I am on safer ground with the sentimenal value argument.)

At the opposite end of the scale, I discovered just before Christmas, that I own an early 18th century 'chymistry' book that sells for around £900. I assume it was my grandfather's. (And wonder how many other such books, that were not saved by me on an uninformed whim, went in the bin :o ) I feel I should put it somewhere better than it is to preserve it.
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby Suelle » January 13th, 2020, 3:36 pm

When my F-i-L died 40 years ago we bought a clock with the small inheritance - I think we paid around £500 for it. I was pleased to see that second-hand clocks from the same era sell for around £2,500, until I looked up buying a brand new one - they now cost over £7000! :o :shock:
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby Pepper Pig » January 13th, 2020, 3:41 pm

Herbi, I think Wade Whimsies occasionally pop up on Bargain Hunt but I can't remember if it's in a good way. :lol:
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby earthmaiden » January 13th, 2020, 3:59 pm

I looked up Whimsies recently as I found two which DD collected as a child. It appears that only certain creatures have a high value, the rest not. Guess which we have? :lol:

You just never know what will be sought-after in years to come, usually things we consider so commonplace that we don't think to save them. My father had some beautiful and very old books on various aspects of Geology which we thought would be of some value but they weren't. His whole stamp collection raised a bit due to just one stamp. My grandfather bought two etchings in the 1920s by up and coming Scottish artists. They were an investment. Neither is particularly valuable nowadays. I always think that some unlikely item in the house is probably worth millions- I haven't found it yet though :(.
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby StokeySue » January 13th, 2020, 8:25 pm

There’s the other side of the coin too
My mother gave the charity shop a book of mine which frankly she had no right to do anything with, when I protested she said “but you only paid 6d for it”.
True but I was hanging on to it because it was worth quite a lot of money!

My OHs family used to weave stories about things and so convince themselves they were valuable. There was the small table and matching chairs said to have come with an ancestor from the Spanish Netherlands, ca 1760. The ancestor was genuine - but the table was held together with mass produced screws, so rather younger than Jean Louis. I sold it at auction, got slightly more than I expected but not a fortune. Auctioneer thought it was mid 19th century, there was a romantic fashion for furniture the 3 musketeers or the Count of Monte Cristobal might have used, I think he was right.
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby Herbidacious » January 13th, 2020, 8:33 pm

Some of the first lot of Whimsies that Wade produced are more valuable than the second lot. I have (all of) the second lot. Some of them are almost nice. But only some of them. I have just one from the first lot. A cockatoo. It's not worth anything, but I quite like it. When I collected them at primary school age, I think they could be purchased for as little as 30p. I used to play with them...

I have a first edition of The Enchanted Wood, but my father scrawled on it, so... (It has rather camp illustrations.)
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby Herbidacious » January 13th, 2020, 8:35 pm

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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby Pepper Pig » January 13th, 2020, 9:19 pm

:o :lol: :lol:
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby uschi » January 13th, 2020, 9:44 pm

I still have some of my father's gauge TT Triang model trains. The German makes (Märklin and so on) ones were worth almost nothing (he missed his big chance in the late 90s early noughties). I missed mine with Brexit. I strongly doubt they are worth much even in the UK.
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby mum-at-the-oven » January 13th, 2020, 10:32 pm

Probably not entirely appropriate to this thread but my aunt and uncle had a large collection of Samuel Johnson works. I was told that some - all were first editions?

My aunt and uncle didn’t have children of their own and my aunt promised them to me. They were in a huge bookcase behind glass so I never touched them but they looked impressive. Unfortunately Uncle refused to write a will and aunt died first so his family inherited the house and its contents, I just hope they knew about the books and didn’t dump them :o
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby dennispc » January 13th, 2020, 10:40 pm

Uschi, do a search on eBay. Some TT stuff has value.
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby uschi » January 13th, 2020, 11:57 pm

Thanks, I will try.
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby Pepper Pig » January 14th, 2020, 8:00 am

Re Wade Whimsies. I remember one year when I was a child one of my nanas gave us a box of Christmas crackers with a WW in each. My mother, ever the snob, chucked them almost as soon as we'd pulled them. :cry: :cry:

Has anyone here ever been to Flog It, Antiques Road Show or Bargain Hunt? I know Patsy is a stalwart of the cutting room floor of Antiques Road Trip . . . . :lol: :lol: :lol:

BTW if any of you do Twitter it is really worth following Michael Baggott when Antiques Road Show is on. He's hilarious.

Oh, and if any of you are ever near Herstmonceaux in East Sussex, James Braxton's Gastropub is fab.

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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby earthmaiden » January 14th, 2020, 8:57 am

I can't bear the programmes where people just buy and sell things for the hell of it, especially when they sell great-grandma's treasured Ming because they want money to take the kids to Florida.
I do quite like Antiques Roadshow, despite the funny side. I was having kittens when they examined a very old manuscript on a very windy Cromer pier though. It sometimes shocks me how careless they seem to be when handling items.
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby PatsyMFagan » January 14th, 2020, 9:04 am

I watch Flog It as homework ;) Can't stand Bargain Hunt though :td: I caught one of those episodes a couple of days ago and was appalled at how much the so called experts didn't know and therefore how much the contestants were encouraged to buy the stuff at ... They are buying from dealers and usually selling to dealers too :rolleyes:

And of course we get plenty of customers bringing in their family treasures, including lots of modern day collectibles, only to be told that they are almost worthless ... :(
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby suffolk » January 14th, 2020, 9:07 am

I went to an Antiques Roadshow many (+30) years ago ... we queued first a very long time. After having had our item looked at by one of the lesser experts we were asked if we would join the queue to be filmed with Henry Sandon ... but my (now ex) husband didn’t want to wait any longer.
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby earthmaiden » January 14th, 2020, 9:15 am

It worries me that ordinary people go on national television with valuable items. I wouldn't want everyone knowing that there was something valuable in my house, word would soon get round locally who you were and where you lived.
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby suffolk » January 14th, 2020, 9:33 am

I’ve a feeling that may have been another factor in his reluctance to wait ... he was pretty well known in the area ... a lot of folk (not all the most reputable) knew where we lived.
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby PatsyMFagan » January 14th, 2020, 10:26 am

Just so you know ... we buy: hallmarked silver and any gold; Whitefriars and Cranberry glass; Royal Crown Derby, Moorcroft, Clarice Cliff and Royal Doulton china as well as anything else my business partner thinks will sell ;)
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby Pepper Pig » January 14th, 2020, 11:42 am

That's interesting Patsy. I thought hallmarked silver was one of the things that had really dropped in value.
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby PatsyMFagan » January 14th, 2020, 11:57 am

It may have done, but we will always give the going price ... strangely (to me anyway) Platinum is cheaper than 9 ct gold at the moment :o
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby Herbidacious » January 14th, 2020, 12:44 pm

Pepper Pig wrote:Re Wade Whimsies. I remember one year when I was a child one of my nanas gave us a box of Christmas crackers with a WW in each.


We had these too, primarily for my benefit. I was so excited!
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby PatsyMFagan » January 14th, 2020, 1:36 pm

Then of course there is Beswick .... not all horses ;)
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby karadekoolaid » January 14th, 2020, 1:46 pm

My stamp collection. I finally got bored of peeling paper off the stamps and decided to sell. Over 12,000 British stamps collected since 1957.
I barely got 800 quid for them :shock: :shock: :cry:
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby Pepper Pig » January 14th, 2020, 1:50 pm

I always remember Suters in Uxbridge selling lots of Beswick Pat.

Do people still collect stamps I wonder?
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby PatsyMFagan » January 14th, 2020, 2:52 pm

We often get asked if we buy stamps as collections are usually inherited, but these are too specialist for us ... usually in the collection, there are only a few that are worth anything ...

Suters ..... memories - Randalls too ;) :lol:
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby StokeySue » January 14th, 2020, 3:16 pm

I’m intrigued that you buy Royal Crown Derby Pat. The prices seem to vary enormously, but that maybe partly because there are so many subtle variations in design
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby dennispc » January 14th, 2020, 4:20 pm

We didn’t buy stuff for the purposes of selling later, rather buying things we liked and thinking perhaps the kids might benefit. OH has a magnificent dolls house, stuffed full of miniatures. Cost will never be recouped.

I did quite nicely with some of my Dinky Cars and also OO engines and trucks, but the rest of my layout lies in the loft. Anyone want 80 metres of used track and lots of other bits and pieces?

Anyone remember David Winter’s little houses? We’ve got plenty of those. Our Apilco dinner and tea set is now out of production and maybe worth a bit, but we do use bits occasionally. The mug used for mixing cornflour is £50 on eBay!
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby Amber » January 15th, 2020, 7:13 am

For the stamp collectors....did you know you can listen to certain stamps? :shock: ;) :D

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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby Herbidacious » January 15th, 2020, 2:58 pm

I still have my stamp collection ( think :shock: Maybe I should have a look for it) I am sure it's worthless. I used to have my father's but he had glued them all to the album pages.... on both sides.

My most 'expensive' stamp was a penny red. I think now worth less than I paid for it... or I was seriously ripped off.

Another juvenile collection was of tea cards. (When I open a box of tea at my mother's, I still get a whiff of excitement with the tea smell, amazingly. I don't do it often...!) Also some cigarette cards. I am sure utterly worthless but kind of worth keeping as historical curiosities now. (Maybe.)
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby earthmaiden » January 15th, 2020, 3:39 pm

For some time, Dominic Winter, the specialist auctioneers (near here) in books and other such things held free valuation mornings every Friday and you could take things like that to check. Nothing is mentioned on their website any more but I went with a friend who had inherited lots of cards, postcards, maps etc. They were very keen to see even the most mundane things and got very excited about something, a postcard I think, which the uninitiated could easily have thrown out. Obviously they hope they can help you sell it but they do look with no obligation.

I loved the tea cards!
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby Herbidacious » January 15th, 2020, 3:50 pm

I never managed to complete a set.
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby Pepper Pig » January 15th, 2020, 4:07 pm

Did anybody?

We used to have a lovely lollipop man, Mr Bridges, who encouraged me to write to Typhoo because I was fed up with footballers being on the cards. I wanted dinosaurs and he thought it worth suggesting. I was very excited because they sent me a colouring book!

They did dinosaurs about 10 years later. I think the cards in our day were very boy orientated!
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Postby Herbidacious » January 15th, 2020, 4:39 pm

We were a PG Tips house. I think theirs were quite boyish too. Some of the cigarette cards (courtesy of Grandma) had wild flowers on them though.
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby Herbidacious » January 15th, 2020, 4:41 pm

Ah here we go. Almost worthless, but interesting.

https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/6456117 ... 2_EALw_wcB
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby Pepper Pig » January 15th, 2020, 5:00 pm

In view of the other thread I would like to ask Patsy if watches are ever deemed valuable? The OH has a secret stash . . . . :oops:
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby earthmaiden » January 15th, 2020, 5:16 pm

Pepper Pig wrote:Did anybody ?


Probably not but I could probably claim to have collected the most Ten Spined Sticklebacks during the Freshwater Fish period. It became a family joke as we seldom got anything else.

I think you could send away and pay for the cards you hadn't got at the end. It cost quite a lot though so I doubt many people did.
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby Herbidacious » January 15th, 2020, 5:21 pm

Ha! EM :D
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby Pepper Pig » January 15th, 2020, 5:31 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby Seatallan » January 15th, 2020, 5:54 pm

I had a client who was obsessed with Lilliput Lane. She was well impressed when I told her I'd been past their head office on many occasions (at the time it was just outside Penrith). On the strength of that (and because I helped her win an appeal) she kindly presented me with a Lilliput Lane house. Have to confess I thought it out the other side of hideous though it was a kind thought. It went swiftly to a charity shop (though obviously not in the area we were living in at the time! :) )

Wonder what Lilliput Lane stuff is worth now (if anything)?
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby earthmaiden » January 15th, 2020, 7:29 pm

I doubt much. Maybe in 200 years .... :lol:
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby PatsyMFagan » January 15th, 2020, 8:34 pm

StokeySue wrote:I’m intrigued that you buy Royal Crown Derby Pat. The prices seem to vary enormously, but that maybe partly because there are so many subtle variations in design


RCD is greatly desired/bought/sold by the travelling fraternity ... They do really want the Imari pattern though ..
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Re: Things you think are valuable but aren't

Postby PatsyMFagan » January 15th, 2020, 8:41 pm

Pepper Pig wrote:In view of the other thread I would like to ask Patsy if watches are ever deemed valuable? The OH has a secret stash . . . . :oops:


It would depend on the watch ... however, I am always astonished when, for instance, someone wants to Flog (it!) a rolex and the estimate (and usually the selling price) is much lower than I would have thought :? Even a gold one ;)
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