What are you growing this year ?

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Re: What are you growing this year ?

Postby Herbidacious » May 17th, 2018, 3:04 pm

Not heard of it. Sounds interesting.
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Re: What are you growing this year ?

Postby scullion » May 17th, 2018, 9:47 pm

Me neither, if you get seeds off it I'd be interested!
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Re: What are you growing this year ?

Postby liketocook » May 18th, 2018, 9:08 am

I'll report back once I get it. :D It looks as though it must having some popularity in the UK as a few online seed suppliers have it.
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Re: What are you growing this year ?

Postby Herbidacious » May 18th, 2018, 11:14 am

Some Incaberry plants just arrived. Will these be another James Wong/Suttons waste of money, I wonder?!

I think I will keep one or two indoors, or in the lean-to, at least.
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Re: What are you growing this year ?

Postby Herbidacious » May 21st, 2018, 6:05 pm

I just tried a little of my American Land cress. It's really tasty and the texture is lovely. It has a little crunch. The leaves are still very small though. Anyway, I would recommend it so far...
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Re: What are you growing this year ?

Postby Badger's mate » May 21st, 2018, 9:58 pm

I remember reading about NZ spinach in an old book by Lawrence Hills of HDRA fame. Have not tried it. I hadn't heard of Incaberries though, but I understand it's another name for Cape Gooseberries or Physalis. I might have mentioned the plant that grew out of the broken drain at the back of our old lab. It fruited wonderfully...
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Re: What are you growing this year ?

Postby Herbidacious » May 22nd, 2018, 6:56 am

Yes that's right re Inca Berries. Things in drains etc. i.e. places you definitely haven't put them often seem to do well. I remember a tomato plant springing up in one in a corner of Tom Quad, Christ Church. Of course it got pulled up before it could fruit. I found some potatoes growing in the front garden at the weekend.
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Re: What are you growing this year ?

Postby scullion » May 22nd, 2018, 8:18 am

I found a baby tomato plant growing through the overflow grille in the kitchen sink last year.
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Re: What are you growing this year ?

Postby Herbidacious » May 22nd, 2018, 8:22 am

I've had them in the 'flower' bed quite a bit. Not sure how as not really ever got round to using my home made compost. Which reminds me. I need to order a second bin.

should I splash out and get a rotatable ones - there seem to be some more compact ball types - or a good old plastic Dalek?

My beehive one turned out to be not so good, although Basil loves to sit on it. I should get rid of it. It's in a nice sunny spot, where plants might do well, but poor Basil...
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Re: What are you growing this year ?

Postby Badger's mate » May 22nd, 2018, 11:29 am

There have been tomatoes growing and fruiting between the tracks at Tottenham Hale station, under the canopy roof, in previous years.

I'm terrible at removing all the spuds from the ground when I harvest, they are all over the plot now. Most of my 'earlies' are in fact potatoes dug up from where they shouldn't be in July.
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Re: What are you growing this year ?

Postby Badger's mate » May 22nd, 2018, 11:38 am

I've never done terribly well with daleks. We have now got three wooden bays, each about 1.2 cubic metres. Two are used for compost and one for leafmould. We empty one of (finished) compost around now, then turn the second one into it, so the new stuff from the second bay is at the bottom and the more rotted at the top, plant marrows on it, then use the newly emptied second bay for the next heap.

I use daleks on the plot, four of them. Their main advantage seems to be that the grass snakes and slow worms like them. They don't rot down chunky stuff too well I find, so woody bits and thick stems (brassicas, sweetcorn) are brought home, shredded and composted in the bigger bays.
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Re: What are you growing this year ?

Postby Herbidacious » May 22nd, 2018, 12:07 pm

Hmm. I was looking at hot bins. I don't want to use up to much room, so a tumbler may be out.
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Re: What are you growing this year ?

Postby Herbidacious » May 22nd, 2018, 12:08 pm

ouch. expensive though.
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Re: What are you growing this year ?

Postby liketocook » May 22nd, 2018, 12:41 pm

I'm quite happy with my daleks, easy to move about or stack if empty. I do water them periodically and remove the lids to help stuff breakdown as i do think they are slower to rot stuff than other types.
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Re: What are you growing this year ?

Postby Herbidacious » May 22nd, 2018, 12:46 pm

I decided to go down that route. £13 vs £200...Also ordered a slim line water butt for the front of the house. I hope we can squeeze it in.

I think Basil might be losing his sun trap beehive bin too...

I noticed, this morning, that some of my peas are flowering... the ones I haven't potted out yet, so I just went and bought some peas stops from Leather Lane, and will put them out tonight. My nematodes arrived too. So no (few) excuses now...
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Re: What are you growing this year ?

Postby scullion » May 22nd, 2018, 2:04 pm

We had one of the rotatable ones years ago, it was given to us. I think we used it for one batch. It didn't work very well and was really heavy to rotate so it left for a new home somewhere else.
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Re: What are you growing this year ?

Postby Herbidacious » May 28th, 2018, 9:59 pm

I spent about 5 hours working in the garden today, a sizeable proportion of which was setting up this: (including carting 7 bags of compost down the garden.) I ran out of strawberry plants...

The long stemmed ones look a bit silly...


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I potted up and out about 60 plants today, I think - apart from strawberries, beans, peas, and yesterday, broad beans (with summer savoury) tomatoes and other things and one flowering plant! Feeling virtuous (and achy!) I also prepared a raised bed for summer psb. (Not sure if I want to bother with it now after the spectacular failure of the winter psb, but I might as well give it a go. Need to get some netting though.)
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Re: What are you growing this year ?

Postby TeresaFoodie » May 29th, 2018, 6:09 pm

Wow Herb! What a display! :kneel:

Can anyone tell me what I may or may not be doing wrong with my chilli plant? I was given it a year ago and got lots of fruits from it. So far this year I have had one red chilli. Lots of blossom but sad looking leaves some days. I don't think I am over or under watering and since the house move it remains on a bright windowsill, the only difference being it has a much bigger window and gets the afternoon sun as opposed to morning. I feed it every two weeks. It seems to perk up a bit when watered from below but still it drops lots of blossoms before they have a chance to fruit.
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Re: What are you growing this year ?

Postby suffolk » May 29th, 2018, 6:14 pm

Chillies are self-pollinating, but if they are indoors where the air is still you may need to give them a hand.

Info here https://www.growfruitandveg.co.uk/grape ... 18213.html
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Re: What are you growing this year ?

Postby Herbidacious » May 29th, 2018, 6:18 pm

It's not quite reached pinterest/instagram quality (yet?) Tezza! I need to get hold of a lot more strawberry plants. I am wondering what to put on the top levels. The soil doesn't go through to the core on that level so there are only a few of centimetres.

Your chilli plant looks pretty healthy to me. You could try a bit of gentle hand pollination with a small paint brush.

edit: sorry. Crossed posts Suffs.
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Re: What are you growing this year ?

Postby liketocook » May 29th, 2018, 7:04 pm

Fab looking planter Herbi :D , I have planter envy :mrgreen: What about some salad leaves or nasturiums for the top as they don't need much soil?
Tezza you could try refreshing the compost, if it's been in the same pot for a while it might have used all the nutrients. I always find doing that gives them a better boost than plant food. I agree with the hand pollinating though a cotton bud works well if you don't have a thin paintbrush.
Courgettes and the second batch of peas and beans planted in there final tubs today. The rhubarb crown I planted on Saturday has sprung to life, I wasn't completely sure I had planted it the right way up :lol:
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Re: What are you growing this year ?

Postby TeresaFoodie » May 29th, 2018, 8:55 pm

Thanks for your opinion ltc. :tu: I'll grab some compost next time I am near some.
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Re: What are you growing this year ?

Postby Herbidacious » May 29th, 2018, 9:15 pm

Sounds good ltc. Not yet potted my courgettes (or indeed anything) into their final big pots.

How long will you mange to keep off your rhubarb?! I was good and waited until the second year after I planted mine :D The ones in my raised bed have not done so well this year. (Year 3) The plant in my border is magnificent. (Year 4)

I have been a bit itchy today and realize that I have sustained 5 massive bites. I never used to get bitten when I was younger...
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Re: What are you growing this year ?

Postby liketocook » May 29th, 2018, 9:19 pm

TeresaFoodie wrote:Thanks for your opinion ltc. :tu: I'll grab some compost next time I am near some.

Our local Poundland sells small bags that are ideal if you just want a small amount.
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Re: What are you growing this year ?

Postby liketocook » May 29th, 2018, 9:25 pm

Herbidacious wrote:Sounds good ltc. Not yet potted my courgettes (or indeed anything) into their final big pots.

How long will you mange to keep off your rhubarb?! I was good and waited until the second year after I planted mine :D The ones in my raised bed have not done so well this year. (Year 3) The plant in my border is magnificent. (Year 4)

I have been a bit itchy today and realize that I have sustained 5 massive bites. I never used to get bitten when I was younger...

I'm not expecting to get much from it next year though hopefully I can pick a few stalks. It was a bit of an impulse buy and only a few quid so I'm not looking for masses, though enough to make rhubarb gin would be nice ;)
Ive not been bitten but I've horrible prickly heat so covered in calamine, not had an outbreak in years though I used to get it lots when I was in my teens, all I can say is bl**dy menopause has a lot to answer to..... :x
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Re: What are you growing this year ?

Postby TeresaFoodie » May 30th, 2018, 6:32 am

liketocook wrote:
TeresaFoodie wrote:Thanks for your opinion ltc. :tu: I'll grab some compost next time I am near some.

Our local Poundland sells small bags that are ideal if you just want a small amount.


Just what I need, and I walk past a £land on the way to the JC this Friday. :tu:
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Re: What are you growing this year ?

Postby karadekoolaid » May 30th, 2018, 12:22 pm

Chillies need sunshine. Lots of it; they´re tropical plants. Too much water and the roots will rot; in fact, if you starve them of water a bit, they grow hotter.
I´ve just transplanted some Habanero chiles , some Rocoto chiles and some Tabaquero chiles I got in Mexico. Have to see how they manage in the local climate; it may be too damp for them.
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Re: What are you growing this year ?

Postby TeresaFoodie » May 30th, 2018, 5:44 pm

Ok, thanks Clive. I think based on what's been said already, I will leave it alone for a couple of days, renew the compost and see how it looks after that. It's so hard isn't it to know if you have under or over watered. Probably comes from experience. This is my first chilli plant (it's took me long enough :rolleyes:) so let's hope I can keep it going!
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Re: What are you growing this year ?

Postby scullion » May 31st, 2018, 2:34 am

Clive's right, they definitely don't like to be overwatered. Only water it when the pot feels light but don't flood it.
If you are going to pot it on the pot size should be half the height of the plant (so a third of the overall height) and just put a little compost in the bottom of the new pot and drop the (unpotted) plant on top and fill round the sides with new compost.
One of the best ways to pollinate the flowers of a self fertile plant - like chillies, beans and peas is to use a sonic (or electric) toothbrush. Even though the plant no longer uses insects the vibration mimics that of a bee and shakes the pollen into the stigma.
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Re: What are you growing this year ?

Postby TeresaFoodie » May 31st, 2018, 6:40 am

Interesting about the toothbrush! Looking at the plant from afar right now i think the pot could be upgraded with a slightly bigger one. I am definitely going to take on board the not overwatering it tip. I'll continue to keep an eye on it.
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Re: What are you growing this year ?

Postby Herbidacious » May 31st, 2018, 11:45 am

How does one used the toothbrush, exactly?! Would one of those disposable ones with batteries do, I wonder. (Academic question as I have not chilli plants that are going to anything this year!)
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Re: What are you growing this year ?

Postby scullion » May 31st, 2018, 1:06 pm

you just hold the back of the toothbrush end on the flower for a few seconds. if you use that type of toothbrush just keep an old brush head for that purpose.
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Re: What are you growing this year ?

Postby Herbidacious » June 3rd, 2018, 6:29 pm

I have worked really rather hard today - started at 9.30 (?) and kept going until 6 with just a short break. There's still a lot to do, but 11 of the tomato plants have been put into their final pots, one courgette into a 'bigger' pot ('oasesbox') 5 tromboncini/cucumbers into oasesboxes, and two into 'proper' pots.

I ran out of cloth wicks to do the rest of the tomatoes, although I also have another self watering pot that doesn't need one. But I ran out of energy.

Planted out summer psb too, and set up a criss cross affair with canes, in the hope to stop animals digging them up - I have a nasty suspicion that the prepared bed has been used as a toilet - and earthed up my potatoes and done a lot of watering.

I am really not sure about these Oasesboxes. There isn't much room for soil in them. Their inventor seems to think that water is more important (presumably water with plant food in it). Because the soil container is funnel shaped, you can't really put canes in them either. I had got them for tomatoes, but after planting out one and realizing this, decided to put curcubits and one courgette as a trial in instead - the climbers have been positioned around a robust obelisk.

Anyway. I have small courgettes on my plants, several of the tomato plants are in flower. I've been eating a few leaves of rocket every time I go past the planter. I have nibbled on a gooseberry (not quite ready :) ) and alpine strawberries. The first of the proper strawberries will be ready in a day or two. The cherries (several on one tree, none on the other) are nearly ripe. Wonder if I will be able to eat one before the birds get them all. I suppose it's not too late to net.
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Re: What are you growing this year ?

Postby Herbidacious » June 8th, 2018, 6:47 pm

Hmm everything is my raised bed is doing poorly. Straggly peas, dying sweetcorn. And one of the curcubits I put in an oasesbox seems to be dying. Really not sure what the problem is. Maybe I put too much iron phosphate slug bait down? Slugs are still eating things over night but not as much as they would without it, I think.

Artichokes are infested with black aphids - I have squirted with a washing up liquid solution. Interestingly the broad beans are not (yet?!) even though they are near the artichokes. The broad beans are planted with summer savoury.

I am feeling rather discouraged. So much work has gone into it all. And quite a bit of money.

Meanwhile the birds are having a go at my strawberries and they decided not to wait until the cherries were ripe, this year, before eating them. I may get 5... I may not. (They are netted now.)

I will pot on as many more tomatoes as I can this weekend and put out some more beans. Maybe sow some more peas in plastic mini crates, then I am hoping it's just going to be watering and feeding for a while now. And, of course, harvesting I hope... :?
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Re: What are you growing this year ?

Postby liketocook » June 12th, 2018, 8:53 pm

Herbi, if it's any consolation I seem to have varying hit & miss stuff every year. So far most are doing well except radishes, watercress & my second batch of peas- first batch are doing great. Think our very hot weather is impacting on those! Two of my four cues are surging on but the other two are lagging- they look healthy enough just much smaller.
My friends brought me the promised New Zealand spinach plants at the weekend what a strange looking plants. They also brought me a couple of kalette plants I'm not sure how they will do in tubs but fingers crossed.
I have my first tomato fruit :D
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Re: What are you growing this year ?

Postby Herbidacious » June 13th, 2018, 7:41 am

Thanks Zosh.

I emptied the Oasesboxes of water and ordered more cucs. Not the same variety though. I think I may get lots of different basils for the oasesboxes :?

We have cut back and down various things to make more light for the raised bed now. Next year I will make sure I dig the manure in properly and not rely on worms. Might also move rhubarb as the patch it’s in (and which it is almost filling) gets more light than the other raised bed.

Need to bring a couple of Cape Gooseberry plants into the coveted lean to to see if they do better there.

I made my own prototype single Quadgrow (Unogrow?!) yesterday. May experiment with more when I can get a chauffeur (aka husband) to take me to a hardware shop. .
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