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Re: GBBO 2018

Postby dennispc » October 20th, 2018, 6:15 pm

Watched lunch time. Unfortunately I didn't have the remote! :rolleyes: :lol:
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Re: GBBO 2018

Postby StokeySue » October 23rd, 2018, 8:43 pm

Well, they should all have had their mille feuilles eliminated

Mille feuilles are made by allowing puff to rise then splitting the layers as you would for a sponge gateau

Restricting the rise by weighing the pastry down with a baking sheet should not have been accepted by the judges

Don’t think it would have made a difference to the result
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Re: GBBO 2018

Postby TeresaFoodie » October 23rd, 2018, 9:33 pm

Have dishes been eliminated in the past Sue?

I agree, it would have made no difference to the end decision.

I thought PH was particularly rude tonight. No need to be so insulting I thought!
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Re: GBBO 2018

Postby cyprusmoira » October 24th, 2018, 5:17 am

TeresaFoodie wrote:I thought PH was particularly rude tonight

I agree.
I do not mind who wins as long as it is not Kim Joy, I am beginning to hate all those cutesy animals.
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Re: GBBO 2018

Postby PatsyMFagan » October 29th, 2018, 9:08 pm

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TeresaFoodie wrote: wrote:I thought PH was particularly rude tonight


I agree.I do not mind who wins as long as it is not Kim Joy, I am beginning to hate all those cutesy animals.


I agree totally Moira…

I think I might have mentioned on the FB group, that Canada has their own version of Bake Off … much the same formula, a PH lookalike (a French pastry chef ?) but a much younger version of Prue … and funny to see that they also have the same problem with baking in a baking hot tent ;)
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Re: GBBO 2018

Postby StokeySue » October 30th, 2018, 10:50 pm

Well, it’s over
Quite pleased with the result, but I didn’t feel the emotional involvement I did for Nadiya’s wedding cake.
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Re: GBBO 2018

Postby aero280 » October 30th, 2018, 11:18 pm

The final was very technical, and a bit boring. I felt there ought to have been more of a show. A real showstopper.

I also feel that some of the more complex bakes should be allowed a whole lot more time, so that they aren't rushing all the time. That would be a better assessment of ability, rather than penalise the good bakers who got unlucky. The result shold not depend on luck.
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Re: GBBO 2018

Postby TeresaFoodie » October 31st, 2018, 12:27 am

I was happy with the result tonight, a very deserved win, and I have to agree with everything you have said Will. There has been a sense of unfairness throughout. And I wish they wouldn't play with the viewers minds by focussing on slip ups to make the audience think that person now has no chance of winning, then they do! It might add to the suspense but it might just be irritating too. I'd far rather see the judges really focussing on how well someone did to rectify a mistake or how they overcome the heat in the tent than do the dramatic 'oh my, shock, horror, oh no!' thing with everyone looking as if the end of the world has come. You don't get that in watercolour challenge/portrait artist shows, I don't think from what I have seen. Cookery, especially baking sometimes, is an art and needs a bit more respect, I think. It's probably the only reason I might not watch the next one, although I thought they did well not to hang on to the moment that the winner was announced for an over-milking length of time.
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Re: GBBO 2018

Postby scullion » October 31st, 2018, 1:29 am

i was underwhelmed by the challenges. was the technical, technically, a bake?
i was happy with the winner. to me the main thing is the taste rather than all the sugary decoration and he was consistently good on flavours.
i don't get cupcakes for that reason - huge amounts of sweet goo on top of a bland cake - yeuk.
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Re: GBBO 2018

Postby cyprusmoira » October 31st, 2018, 6:35 am

The technical belonged on MasterChef, bakers do not usually make Baba Ghanoush.
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Re: GBBO 2018

Postby StokeySue » October 31st, 2018, 9:12 am

I too thought it was an odd tech
Making them work with fire as a challenge though perhaps not for the final, and the dips seemed to be a large part of it.
I was surprised at first that none of them knew the technique of fire roasting veg, but perhaps not those three, I bet Briony and Dan would have known.
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Re: GBBO 2018

Postby dennispc » October 31st, 2018, 9:32 am

Showstopper, 'looked like the plasticine table in a primary school were a kid with dirty hands had got the colours mixed up', someone post online - I thought the final was poor.

Agree with Teresa, no longer a baking show but edited for dramatic TV effect.

Unfairness throughout, definitely.

At some point in the series PH described Dan as the best baker he'd seen in the tent. Says it all really.

Just a thought, we're all very careful not to create spoilers for those who use catch up, but the thread title is clear what it's about. Best not click on it. :D
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Re: GBBO 2018

Postby dennispc » October 31st, 2018, 9:44 am

One thing I did like, so many of them now meeting up as friends to bake, chat and have the odd glass. :tu:
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Re: GBBO 2018

Postby PatsyMFagan » October 31st, 2018, 12:00 pm

I haven't watched it yet, was hoping for no spoilers, but spotted it ! ;)
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Re: GBBO 2018

Postby Ratatouille » October 31st, 2018, 1:19 pm

I'm afraid I thought it was a very poor ending, I'felt all along that the eventual winner, although a fair enough baker , played far too much on his so-called nerves and lack of confidence. If he really was that lacking on confidence he wouldn;t have enetred in the first place.

as for the goings on outside. It was more like Big Brother. I shna't be watching next year.
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Re: GBBO 2018

Postby scullion » October 31st, 2018, 4:29 pm

PatsyMFagan wrote:I haven't watched it yet, was hoping for no spoilers, but spotted it ! ;)


i am so, so sorry, patsy, i just didn't stop to think. i would have been really peed off if someone had done it to me, i'm mortified.
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Re: GBBO 2018

Postby Busybee » October 31st, 2018, 5:16 pm

I felt that the final technical challenge was more a test of camping skills, dealing with an open fire etc.

I really wanted Kin Joy to win but I do think she threw her lead away with a one dimensional show stopper, having said that I don’t think any of them were particularly good showstoppers.

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Re: GBBO 2018

Postby earthmaiden » October 31st, 2018, 8:21 pm

Just caught up with it (purposely avoided the thread today and managed to turn the car radio off in time when it was about to be discussed!).

My feelings are much the same as those of others. I would like to see either more time to complete a challenge well or less complex challenges. To expect people to work with chocolate, butter icing etc. in a tent in a heatwave was cruel. No allowances seemed to be made.

I really didn't have an inkling who the winner would be, each seemed to excel at certain aspects and not others. Maybe the producers will see some of the negative aspects as well and think carefully about the direction the show goes. I thought the fire was quite fun but agree that all those dips weren't really baking.
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Re: GBBO 2018

Postby slimpersoninside » October 31st, 2018, 8:29 pm

IMHO the challenges are getting more and more rediculous. The end results look pretty poor a lot of the time. I'd far rather they went back to things such as a spectacular 3 tier cake made really well than "a landscape" that looked rubbish. I'm sure the bakers are far better than the end result appears.
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Re: GBBO 2018

Postby StokeySue » October 31st, 2018, 9:25 pm

I don’t understand why they can’t recycle challenges, why it always has to be different? Great British Menu is stuck with the same four courses every banquet, but each heat is quite different in practice. It could be a repeat challenge with a twist - last year a birthday cake, this year an engagement cake or something.
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Re: GBBO 2018

Postby earthmaiden » October 31st, 2018, 9:57 pm

Quite. To produce a classic recipe flawlessly is an art and a delight for people to see.
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Re: GBBO 2018

Postby TeresaFoodie » November 1st, 2018, 12:14 am

I did wonder also, if any of the three finalists had ever attempted a landscape bake before. I've watched some American programmes where professional bakers clearly have, and they can be spectacular. A home baker is just not going to have that experience behind them, even if they madly practised beforehand, and it showed.

I was praying that the final show stopper would be a croquembouche, possibly with a never seen before twist. Alas.... :sad:

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Re: GBBO 2018

Postby PatsyMFagan » November 1st, 2018, 9:08 am

scullion wrote:i am so, so sorry, patsy, i just didn't stop to think. i would have been really peed off if someone had done it to me, i'm mortified. i'm putting the book down the back of my trousers as i type!


No worries Scully … there was something on social media too, so if not you, it would have been by other means … ;)
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Re: GBBO 2018

Postby Badger's mate » November 2nd, 2018, 9:53 am

I have pondered this for a while, it leaves me feeling slightly uncomfortable. Why should a glass jar explode at room temperature? if it took 15 minutes to clear up, but items that had taken time to prepare had to be discarded for fear of contamination, why was 15 minutes a suitable amount of time to add on? It smacks of contrived jeopardy. The judging comments made during the show (indeed, throughout the series) didn't necessarily accord with subsequent decisions. The first two challenges weren't really baking and two of the final showstoppers looked very poor. A well-flavoured mess was enough to get people eliminated in some rounds but not others. Of course it's subjective and we don't get to taste it but I have wondered a few times if the result always reflected the performance.

I suppose the important thing is to remember that it's just a telly show, rather than a serious contest between Britain's best home bakers. Everyone who gets selected for the show, especially if they stay a few weeks, has got the exposure and opportunity to make a few bob out of their fifteen minutes.
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Re: GBBO 2018

Postby suffolk » November 2nd, 2018, 10:08 am

I think this series has exposed some real continuity errors in the editing. Not good.
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Re: GBBO 2018

Postby earthmaiden » November 2nd, 2018, 10:15 am

Well said Badgers mate.

I would love to know what the temperature was on the worst days. They are in a marquee and some summer weather was hot. It could have been sweltering and they certainly made it look that way, something that made me cross when they were expected to use ingredients such as chocolate. I don't know what was in the jar but it certainly shattered well.

I hope that producers and challenge-setters learn something. If we can see how sad it has become then maybe they will as well.
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Re: GBBO 2018

Postby dennispc » November 2nd, 2018, 12:20 pm

Like you earthmaiden I hope the producers learn, but as long as people keep watching nothing will change.

Let's give the bakers a real challenge. When they lift the cloth, the piece of paper will say, 'make a maderia cake, packets of ingredients in store cupboard or fridge.'

Apparently, there's a National Cake Decorating event going on today - comments from real cake decorators would be interesting. Our shop sold cake decorating stuff (sugar craft) and we had people who took orders to make cakes. None of those cakes would've been let out our door.
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Re: GBBO 2018

Postby earthmaiden » August 27th, 2019, 4:57 pm

An hour and a half of the new GBBO 2019 tonight. I wasn't going to bother with it this year... but I might ;). I really hope that they have learned that we would like to see quality rather than poor quantity in impossible conditions - but somehow I doubt it.
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Re: GBBO 2018

Postby TeresaFoodie » August 27th, 2019, 9:51 pm

I had promised myself that I would watch 2019 from the very start, and I did try, but after a short while I realised that the two things I wished they would remove - the annoying background jingles and the annoying way that Noel has to say 'Get set, baaaaake' in that stupid voice - had been kept in.

Maybe I should watch on mute with subtitles because I would love to learn more about baking and am sure there are at least a couple of stars in the making!
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Re: GBBO 2018

Postby StokeySue » August 27th, 2019, 9:57 pm

I didn’t notice any jingles
What annoyed me was not being given a proper look at the showstoppers
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Re: GBBO 2018

Postby earthmaiden » August 27th, 2019, 10:01 pm

I agree, but didn't think it was just the showstoppers. There were so many contestants they had to whizz through it all. We used to see more of the methodology and construction too I thought. Still not sure if I will watch it all this year (although the glimpse of next week's showstoppers looked pretty good!).
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Re: GBBO 2018/19

Postby earthmaiden » September 17th, 2019, 10:06 pm

Is sweet making baking? Discuss. ;)
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Re: GBBO 2018/19

Postby TeresaFoodie » September 17th, 2019, 10:38 pm

I suppose so if they are baked. :lol: I didn't see tonight's offerings or I suppose I could comment better than that!
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Re: GBBO 2018/19

Postby scullion » September 17th, 2019, 10:56 pm

i think they may be reaching the bottom of the barrel. i wouldn't class it as baking.
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Re: GBBO 2018/19

Postby cyprusmoira » September 18th, 2019, 5:14 am

I wondered about the sweet making too, Next week, fudge

Edited to add, how do you make it to GBBO without knowing how to make Rough Puff Pastry, even if you had never made it you should know the method. I have never made lemon curd but I know how to do it

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Re: GBBO 2018/19

Postby Busybee » September 18th, 2019, 6:32 am

Quite, and he hadn’t made bread before last week either ;)

Quite a poor episode and the wrong baker got sent home.

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Re: GBBO 2018/19

Postby PatsyMFagan » September 18th, 2019, 7:09 am

I haven't bothered much with GBBO since it moved channels … it's really annoying when the programme goes over the original hour (as there was no advert breaks on BBC) .. there is usually something on another channel that starts on the hour - I do like to plan my viewing ;) :rolleyes:

Anyway after reading all your comments, I don't think I am missing anything this time.
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Re: GBBO 2018/19

Postby earthmaiden » September 18th, 2019, 7:13 am

Mustn't spoil it for anyone still to watch but I could see why that person was sent home. I thought their work was consistently mediocre whereas others shone except for one disaster. I keep saying I won't watch it any more but somehow still do!

How many of you would have got the Yorkshire rose right? ;).
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Re: GBBO 2018/19

Postby Busybee » September 18th, 2019, 7:19 am

earthmaiden wrote:
How many of you would have got the Yorkshire rose right? ;).


Me! My Dad teaches wood turners how to carve them in wood, hence there are rather a lot of them hanging around our houses, carved into logs etc.

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Re: GBBO 2018/19

Postby earthmaiden » September 18th, 2019, 7:41 am

I thought you might have been able to!!
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Re: GBBO 2018/19

Postby scullion » September 18th, 2019, 8:54 am

me too, i think they were getting mixed up with the labour party rose!
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Re: GBBO 2018/19

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Re: GBBO 2018/19

Postby earthmaiden » September 18th, 2019, 4:47 pm

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Re: GBBO 2018/19

Postby Busybee » September 18th, 2019, 5:07 pm

I think that because the vast majority of the bakers are under 30 ish I don’t think they have the depth of knowledge to deal with the technical challenges. No one seemed to know what a maid of honour was, let alone what it should look like. Hence the schoolboy error of making them all too shallow to hold the different fillings.

I believe that only one Baker was over 50 with the majority in their 20’s. Hence we have bakers not having made bread, lemon curd or rough puff pastry before. The standard seems to have slipped from previous years.

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Re: GBBO 2018/19

Postby StokeySue » September 19th, 2019, 8:10 am

I disagree a little - while not everyone knows what a Maid of Honour is, (down here it’s a cake-y frangipane not curd) but going into a completion like without making all the main types of pastry and sponge at least once seems to me odd.

Soon we’ll get the annual panic where someone has to make the “almost impossible” Genoese sponge unrehearsed (spoiler: it’s fairly easy) :rolleyes:
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Re: GBBO 2018/19

Postby earthmaiden » September 19th, 2019, 8:51 am

I think that BB has raised an interesting point. With fewer children experiencing a wide variety of cooking at home and/or school there must be fewer people who have a clue about how much there is to learn and even what methods should be learned for such a competition (if proper research isn't done, which it clearly isn't). You'd have to go on a course to learn it all in a 'hands on' way, YouTube is probably the second best option :?. I have reason to realise that the same applies to basic mending and button sewing recently too :rolleyes:.

They are always going to pick something that some have never heard of or eaten but most follow a traditional method of some sort (even if you're not sure which one!).
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Re: GBBO 2018/19

Postby StokeySue » September 19th, 2019, 9:09 am

But my point was that these contestants have “never heard of”, or more importantly never made, things that have cropped up with monotonous regularity on every single series of GBBO They should do a little swotting

I’m sure John Whaite, Nadiya, and Ruby Tandoh for example all watched the previous series, made notes and researched anything (such as rough puff) if they didn’t already have it in their repertoire. It’s not necessary to have information spoon fed to you by a parent or course teacher, and young people eat out far more than we did, so should experience more different foods, not less.
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Re: GBBO 2018/19

Postby Pepper Pig » September 19th, 2019, 9:36 am

There's been a fair amount of speculation in the press that the C4 producers were looking for younger bakers in order to keep the ratings up. Comparisons were made with Love Island! I think the standard is pretty ropey although there are maybe 5 who seem to have some idea what they are doing. I wonder how many have looked at past contestants and thought that they might be able to join the Celebrity culture if they hung around. It hasn't done Liam Charles or Kim Joy any harm. But I agree, the majority don't appear to have done the research or tried things out more than once. I think it was Suelle a while back (forgive me if I'm wrong) who said that to compete properly you'd need to have quite a lot of money in order to do all the back-up bakes in order to perfect your work. I think it's very disappointing that there are no older people in this year's competition - Phil was fun but not especially talented. I wonder if the programme makers have shot themselves in the foot?

It was the first ever dairy week. I hope it's the last. :lol:
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Re: GBBO 2018/19

Postby earthmaiden » September 19th, 2019, 9:43 am

I quite agree Sue. It's madness not to swot up and then cry when you can't do it! I just felt that those that are keen have to swot from scratch more these days. As for the eating out bit, I'm not sure everyone thinks about how a dish has been made unless they are interested.

Good points PP. I don't think dairy week is a bad idea but sweets of the kind made are not baking.
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Re: GBBO 2018/19

Postby Pepper Pig » September 20th, 2019, 4:25 pm

Dan Beasley-Harding, the gay dad from the last series, has tweeted that he thinks the editing this year leaves a bit to be desired. I think he has a point.
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